Robert Guthrie & Elizabeth Jane Caldwell

The Family Focus is on . . .

ROBERT GUTHRIE & ELIZABETH JANE CALDWELL
~ Pennsylvania & Ohio ~

When an ancestor is found living in the same place at the same time as others of the same surname it is easy to conclude that they are probably related. Sometimes too easy. This seems to have been the case when Rev. Laurence Rawlins Guthrie constructed the hypothetical family of James Guthrie, one of three emigrant brothers from Edinburgh, Scotland, and his wife, reportedly a Miss Bissell. His 1930s viewpoint did not come with the advantages of DNA testing and internet access to databases everywhere. It’s still a pretty good guess. . . even if it’s technically wrong.



Origin Theories:

The tradition surrounding the Three Brothers immigration story has holes that have yet to be filled. A few lineages connected to them appear to have been mixed with wrong branches of the same family. DNA testing has gone a long way to proving relationships, and correcting improper placements within Guthrie Family Group 2A, but there is still work to be done.

In the case of Robert Guthrie, born in 1752, his theoretical placement as the son of James Guthrie & Miss Bissell has a potentially insurmountable problem– a paternal line genetic mismatch that most likely occurred at or before Robert’s generation. While other men who are theorized to belong to Robert’s family have correctly matched Guthrie Family Group 2A, the YDNA results for a direct line male descendant of the Guthrie-Caldwell family do not match GFG2A or any of the Guthrie groups.

A single result like this could be a more recent genetic mismatch caused by a non-paternal event or adoption. We really do need a 2nd direct male descendant of the Guthrie-Caldwell line for confirmation. However, there are multiple autosomal DNA tests sharing matches with this participant all the way back to the Guthrie-Caldwell generation, which suggests that this genetic divergence occurred no later than the time of Robert’s conception.

That leaves us with more than one mystery. Was Robert Guthrie the son of the couple identified as James Guthrie & Miss Bissell? If he did historically belong to that family, or to some family within the group, who then was his biological father? Was he even born in Pennsylvania? Are there any genetic or historical clues that point to his true family origins?

Many of the family lines descending from Robert Guthrie’s male offspring have numerous sons. There has to be more living male Guthrie descendants out there with some Y-DNA that can confirm current results or provide new evidence about your family origins. Step up to the plate, guys. All it takes is a little courage and some spit.



Mistaken Identities:

None known.



The Family of Robert Guthrie & Elizabeth Jane Caldwell:

ROBERT GUTHRIE
Parents: James Guthrie & Miss Bissell / Unconfirmed and Genetic Mismatch
Born: 1752
Location: West Caln, Chester, Pennsylvania, reportedly
Occupation: Farmer
Married: Elizabeth Jane Caldwell on 4 May 1778
Died: 6 May 1815
Location: Cadiz, Harrison, Ohio, USA
Buried: Nottingham Cemetery


ELIZABETH JANE CALDWELL
Parents: William Caldwell & Margaret McCune (Unverified)
AKA: Eliza Jane or Jane (Robert identifies her as ‘Jane’ in his will)
Born: 20 Feb 1760
Location: Pennsylvania
Children: William (1780), Elizabeth (1781), Nathaniel (1783), Margaret (1784), Robert Caldwell (1785), Jane (1788), Samuel (1789), John Allen (1790), Mary (1792), Agnes (1794), David (1796), James Caldwell (1798), Joseph (1800), Sarah (1802), Martha (1804), Josiah (1808)
Died: 31 May 1815
Location: Cadiz, Harrison, Ohio, USA
Buried: Nottingham Cemetery


CHILDREN:

WILLIAM GUTHRIE
1780PA-1854OH

The eldest child of the family, William Guthrie, was born in Pennsylvania on 8 August 1780. He was twice married. First to Eleanor Evans by whom he had 12 children. Eleanor died in 1839 and he remarried on 6 Aug 1840 to Elizabeth Finch. They had 2 sons. William died 2 Nov 1854 in Richland, Ohio and is buried at Rome Presbyterian Church Revolutionary War Cemetery. He was 74 at his death.

Guthrie Children: 14
Samuel (1801), Robert David (1802), John Evans (1806), William Patterson (1807), Jane C (1809), Francis E (1810), Elizabeth (1813), Nathaniel South (1816), Mary (1818), James (1820), Sarah (1821), Lydia (1824), David F (1842), and Stephen A (1848).

YDNA Project Participants: Yes
Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: Yes


ELIZABETH GUTHRIE
1781PA-1833OH

Birth in Pennsylvania, Elizabeth moved with her parents to Ohio. She married Adam Figley in Jefferson County, Ohio on 8 Dec 1806. Elizabeth died in 1833 in Harrison County, Ohio. Adam survived her by 17 years.

Figley Children: 8
Jane (1807), Jacob (1810), Delila (1814), Robert (1814), Rebecca (1816), Joseph (1818), Elizabeth (1821), Eleanor (18??)

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Project Participants: Yes


NATHANIEL GUTHRIE
1783PA-p1850

Nathaniel Guthrie was born in Washington County, Pennsylvania on 22 Apr 1783. He married Nancy South in that location in 1804. They had 3 children. The family moved to Harrison County, Ohio where they were enumerated in 1840, and then on to Ohio County, Indiana by 1850. I haven’t been able to locate Nathaniel in the 1860 census, so he may have died between 1850-1860.

Guthrie Children: 3
Peter (1806), Nancy (1808), Samuel (1809)

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: No


MARGARET GUTHRIE
1784PA-1850OH

Born in Washington County on 11 December 1784, Pennsylvania, Margaret Guthrie was the second daughter of the household. She married Robert Thomas Finney on 13 March 1806 in Washington, Pennsylvania. Robert died in Pennsylvania in 1843, and Margaret chose to move with her family to Ohio. She was living in Nottingham, Harrison County, OH with her eldest daughter Maria Finney in 1850.

Finney Children: 10
Maria (1809), Joseph (1810), Jane C (1812), Robert Potts (1814), David A (1815), William Guthrie (1818), Thomas D (1820), Sarah K (1822), James (1825), John (1831)

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: Yes


ROBERT CALDWELL GUTHRIE
1785PA-1854OH

Robert was born in Pennsylvania on 10 Oct 1785 and he married Jane Cunningham there on 15 Feb 1809. He was a soldier in the War of 1812. Robert and his family were enumerated in the Cadiz, Harrison County, Ohio census of 1820. As seems to be the case with this Guthrie line, they had a large family. Robert Caldwell Guthrie wrote a will on 4 Aug 1852 mentioning his wife Jane and children. He died in Deersville, Harrison, OH on 18 Feb 1854.

Guthrie Children: 16
Lydia G (1810), David (1812), Margaret (1814), Sarah (1815), Benjamin C (1817), William (1819), Mary (1820), Robert Cunningham (1822), Nathaniel Thomas (1825), Rebecca A (1827), Julia Ann (1828), Martha L (1830), Isabel (1835), Elizabeth A (1836), Sophia M (1837), Unidentified (18??)

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: No


JANE GUTHRIE
1788PA – 18??

We don’t know much about Jane Guthrie (at least I don’t). She was born in Washington County, Pennsylvania on 11 April 1788. She may also be known as Jane Rebecca Ann Guthrie, although I don’t seem to have a source for that data. Her marriage to John Cook occurred on 25 Feb 1817.

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: No


SAMUEL GUTHRIE
1789PA-1851OH

Samuel’s birth occurred in Washington County, Pennsylvania on 11 Dec 1789. He was presumably married to Elizabeth Shaw sometime before 1812, the year of their eldest son’s birth. The family was listed in the 1820 Census of Cadiz, Harrison, Ohio. Elizabeth’s father, Gavin Shaw, wrote a will on 8 Oct 1827 naming Samuel Guthrie as his son in law. The will was proved 21 Nov 1834. Samuel and his family continued to live in New Athens, Harrison, Ohio. He wrote his own will on 16 Sep 1851 naming his wife Elizabeth and daughter Jane. Samuel died on 17 Sep 1851 and is buried Crabapple Cemetery in Belmont, Ohio, which is 2 miles south of New Athens. Elizabeth lived until 1868.

Guthrie Children: 8
Guian S (1812), Eleanor (1817), Unidentified Son (1824), Robert (1826), Jane B J (1833), Eliza (18??), Sarah (18??), Mary (18??)

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: Yes


JOHN ALLEN GUTHRIE
1790PA-1869OH

John Allen Guthrie was born on 8 November 1790 in Washington County, Pennsylvania. He married Margaret Cunningham on 5 Oct 1815. Their first four children were all girls, so they may have wondered if they were ever going to produce a son. Their last three were all boys. John and Margaret lived in Perry, Tuscawaras, Ohio. She predeceased him in 1858. John died on 5 December 1869 and is buried in Pleasant Grove, Tuscarawas, Ohio.

Guthrie Children: 7
Lettie Ann (1816), Jane (1819), Lydia (1821), Nancy (1824), Robert (1827), Benjamin Cunningham (1832), James Caldwell (1836)

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: No


MARY GUTHRIE
1792PA-1848OH

Daughter Mary Guthrie was born on 22 June 1792 in Washington County, Pennsylvania. The family was already living in Ohio when she married Timothy Titus in Jefferson County on 13 Jan 1812 at the age of 19. They had a large family. Mary died on 8 April 1848 in Cadiz, and Timothy on 14 an 1859, 55 and 70 respectively.

Titus Children: 10
Uriah (1813), Jane (1815), Rachel (1816), William Sanford (1818), Samuel Caldwell (1819), Sarah Amanda (1822), Mary Ann (1824), Jonathan C (1825), Timothy Taylor (1829), Eliza (1833)

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: Yes


AGNES ‘NANCY’ F GUTHRIE
1794PA-1877OH

Nancy Guthrie was born on 4 March 1794 in Washington, Pennsylvania. She married twice. First at the age of 20 in Belmont, Ohio to Edmund Adams with whom she had one son born the following year. I don’t have a DOD for Edmund, but it was likely about that time as there were no other children. Nancy remarried on 20 Feb 1822 to John Morrow Kirkpatrick. They lived in Harrison and later in Pike, Knox, Ohio where they raised their children. John died in 1864 and Nancy on 14 May 1877. They are buried at Four Corners Cemetery in Knox County.

Adams Children: 1
Edmund W (1815)

Kirkpatrick Children: 8
Ann (1822), Elizabeth Jane (1823), Nancy K (1825), Hugh Waters (1827), Sarah (1829), Robert Guthrie (1831), John (1833), Caroline C (1837)

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Project Participants: No


DAVID GUTHRIE
1796PA-1870OH

Born on 6 August 1796 in Pennsylvania, David was a farmer. He was twice married. First to Mary Ann Kirkpatrick about 1820 by whom he had 6 children. Mary Ann died in 1833, and he remarried by about 1835 to Sarah ‘Sally’ Parrish. They lived in Pike, Knox, Ohio where they raised their family having 10 children of their own. David Guthrie died on 22 Jul 1870 and Sally not until 1890. David and his wives are buried at the Four Corners Cemetery in Knox County.

Guthrie Children: 16
Jane (1821), Ann (1823), Elizabeth (1825), Samuel (1826), Hugh Wylie (1827), Sarah (1831), William (1837), David C (1839), Francis Marion (1840), Rachel M (1843), James G (1845), John N (1847), Elijah ‘Elza’ (1849), Nancy (1851), Mary E (1853), Nathan (1861)

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Project Participants: Yes


JAMES CALDWELL GUTHRIE
1798PA-1864OH

James Caldwell Guthrie was born in Pennsylvania on 27 Jan 1798. He was twice married. First to Elizabeth Auld about 1821 in Ohio by whom he had 9 children, and secondly to Mary A Stewart about a year after Elizabeth’s death in 1844. They had 4 more children. Like many of the family, James was a farmer.

Guthrie Children: 13
Robert (1822), John Montgomery (1823), Jane (1826), Ann (1828), Nathaniel Caldwell (1831), William Lambert (1833), Andrew Isaac (1836), James Cunningham (1838), David Anderson (1844), Archibald (1846), Samuel (1848), Margaret Ellen (1850), Sarah Jane (1853)

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: No


JOSEPH GUTHRIE
1800OH-1879OH

Joseph Guthrie was the first of the Guthrie-Caldwell line to be born in Ohio. His DOB is 4 March 1800 in Deersville, Harrison, Ohio. Like the others he occupied himself with farming. Joseph married Nancy Turbett about 1831 in Ohio by whom he had 8 children. They settled in Pike, Knox, Ohio. He died there on 15 April 1879 and Nancy on 27 Jan 1883.

Guthrie Children: 8
Samuel (1832), Sarah Jane (1834), Eleanor ‘Ellen’ (1838), Mary Ann (1840), John (1845), Marilla (1848), Rebecca (18??), Isabella (18??)

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: No


SARAH GUTHRIE
1802OH-1885OH

Sarah Guthrie was born in Ohio on 27 July 1802. She is the third member of the family to marry a Kirkpatrick. A Christmas bride, she married William K Kirkpatrick on 25 Dec 1823 in Athens, Harrison, Ohio. They lived in Moorefield, Harrison, Ohio. Sarah died at the age of 82 on 14 Jan 1885. Her husband William survived her by 3 years. He died 1 May 1888 at the age of 86. They are buried at Nottingham Cemetery in Harrison County, Ohio.

Kirkpatrick Children: 11
James (1824), Robert G (1826), Joseph C (1828), Hugh Lawrence (1828), Mary Jane (1831), Adeline (1833), Sarah (1835), Elizabeth (1837), John (1839), Nancy M (1841), Margaret (1844)

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: No


MARTHA GUTHRIE
1804OH-1836IN

Martha was born 4 May 1804 in Harrison County, Ohio. At the age of 18 she married James Long with whom she had 7 children. They moved to Steuben County, Indiana sometime before Martha’s death on 16 Dec 1836 at the age of 32. Widower James Long remarried soon afterward to Sarah Reynolds by whom he had 3 additional daughters and 4 sons (not listed here). James died on 27 July 1857.

Long Children: 7
Benajah Boardman (18??), Jane C (18??), Robert E (18??), John C (18??), Elizabeth (18??), Martha A (18??), Mary C (18??)

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: No


JOSIAH GUTHRIE
1808OH – 1858OH

The youngest of the bunch, Josiah Guthrie was born on 27 August 1808 in Deersville, Harrison, Ohio. He married Rachel Myers in Tuscarawas on 6 May 1830 when he was 21. Their family was listed in Tuscarawas in 1830, and in Harrison in 1840. Josiah was a farmer. He and Rachel were parents to 7 children. He died at only 49 years of age on 18 Jan 1858. After his death Rachel lived with her unmarried children in New Philadelphia, Tuscarawas in 1870, and later with her daughter Martha Jane (Guthrie) Wardell and family. Rachel died in 1881.

Guthrie Children: 7
Michael (1833), Joseph Huffman (1834), Martha Jane (1836), David B (1838), Elizabeth Ann (1841), John W (1844), George Washington (1847)

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Participants: No



Timeline of Family Events & Historical Highlights:

1752: BIRTH of ROBERT GUTHRIE aka GUTTERY
Reportedly 1752 in Pennsylvania. The ‘presumptive family’ outlined by American Guthrie and Allied Families author, Rev. Lawrence R Guthrie identifies Robert’s probable parents as James Guthrie and Miss Bissell. This couple is also somewhat hypothetical or may be misidentified in the wrong generation of Guthrie Family 2A – Branch I. There is a chance that Robert Guthrie was a member of the extended family of GFG2A, especially because the given name Robert is frequently found among its members, however genetics reveal that he was most likely an adoptee or the result of a Non-Paternal Event (NPE). YDNA testing reveals that the line does not match any other established Guthrie Family Group. See Guthrie DNA Project (below) for more details. There is no definitive document, to my knowledge, identifying his exact date or location of birth. It is believed, based on his potential connections with GFG2A that he was born in Pennsylvania. If he was indeed a son of GFG2A-Branch I’s James Guthrie, his birthplace would most likely be West Call, Chester, Pennsylvania.

1760: BIRTH of ELIZABETH JANE CALDWELL
Various sources list her as Eliza Jane or Jane Elizabeth. According to those same sources, she was born to William H Caldwell (1726PA-1791PA) and Margaret McCune/McEwen in Pennsylvania on 20 Feb 1760.

1773: FORMATION of WESTMORELAND COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Westmoreland County was formed on 26 Feb 1773 from Lancaster, Northumberland, adn later Bedford Counties. It was the first county in the Colony of Pennsylvania whose entire territorial boundary was located west of the Allegheny Mountains. Westmoreland County originally included the present-day counties of Fayette, Washington, Greene, and parts of Beaver, Allegheny, Indiana, and Armstrong counties. [Wikipedia]

1778: MARRIAGE OF ROBERT GUTHRIE & ELIZABETH JANE CALDWELL
Pennsylvania, USA on 4 May 1778

No original record found. Documented in the US and International Marriage Records Database (Ancestry) and on various Family Trees, the date is listed in American Guthrie and Allied Families. Much of the author’s information came through direct correspondence with descendants.

1778-1783: PENNSYLVANIA RANGER
Robert Guttery is listed as serving in Gideon Long’s company of Pennsylvania rangers for the Continental Line during the American Revolution. [Fold3]

1780: BIRTH of SON – WILLIAM GUTHRIE
Pennsylvania, USA on 8 Aug 1780

William’s DOB is listed in trees as the 8th of August, but his tombstone lists him as 74 years 2m 23 d at his death on 2 Nov 1854. That would makes his DOB the 10th instead.

1781: FORMATION of CUMBERLAND TOWNSHIP
Pennsylvania on 15 Jul 1781

Washington County, Pennsylvania was formed from part of Westmoreland County on 28 March 1791. Greene County, Pennsylvania was established on 9 Febrary 1796 when Washington County was divided into 2 segments by an act of the Legislature. The southern portion became Greene county and consisted of 577 square miles, which also encompassed Cumberland Township.

Cumberland Township, formerly Washington now in Greene County, Pennsylvania

1781: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – ELIZABETH GUTHRIE
Pennsylvania, USA on 4 August 1781

Elizabeth’s birth is documented in trees as being in Cumberland Township. Her birth year of 1781 is the same year that town was officially established. At that time the township was a part of Westmoreland County, which became Washington County in 1791, and later Greene County in 1796.

1783: BIRTH of SON – NATHANIEL GUTHRIE
Pennsylvania, USA on 22 April 1783

At the time of Nathaniel’s birth Cumberland Township was a part of Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania. The county divided in 1791 to form Washington County.

1784: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – MARGARET ‘PEGGY’ GUTHRIE
Pennsylvania, USA

Reportedly born in Cumberland Township on 11 December 1784, Peggy would have been born in Westmoreland County. It was not until 1791 that Washington County formed from Westmoreland.

1785: BIRTH of SON – ROBERT CALDWELL GUTHRIE
Pennsylvania, USA on 10 Oct 1785

This birth would have occurred in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania since Washington County did not officially form from that location until 1791.

1787: RESIDENCE in PENNSYLVANIA
Pennsylvania, USA

This is a possible match for this Robert Guthrie. A ‘Roats Guttery’ is listed as living next to William Caldwell on Buffalo Creek. William’s wife was named Elizabeth as was a daughter named in his will.

This entry is documented for Washington County, PA. Technically, the area was still Westmoreland County until 1791.

There is another Robert Guthrie living in Washington County, Pennsylvania, but he likely arrived in America about 1800 and settled in Peters Township. See GFG12 – Robert Guthrie and Jean McGibney. This 1787 entry is probably too early to conflict with that family line.

1788: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – JANE GUTHRIE
Pennsylvania, USA on 11 April 1788

If Jane was born in Cumberland Township, the location would have been in Westmoreland County since Washington County was not formed until 1791.

1789: BIRTH of SON – SAMUEL GUTHRIE
Pennsylvania, USA on 11 Dec 1789

Washington County was not formed from Westmoreland County until 1791. If he was born in Cumberland Township, the location would have been Westmoreland County.

1790: BIRTH of SON – JOHN ALLEN GUTHRIE
Pennsylvania, USA on 8 November 1790

Washington County did not form from Westmoreland County until 1791, so John Allen Guthrie’s birth was most likely officially in the parent county of Westmoreland.

1791: FORMATION of WASHINGTON COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania on 28 Mar 1791

1792: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – MARY ‘POLLY’ GUTHRIE
Washington County, Pennsyulvania, USA on 22 June 1792

Polly is the first of the children officially born in Washington County even though their actual residence did not change.

1794: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – AGNES ‘NANCY’ F. GUTHRIE
Washington County, Pennsylvania, USA on 4 March 1794

1796: BIRTH of SON – DAVID GUTHRIE
Washington County, Pennsylvania, USA on 6 Aug 1796

1797: RESIDENCE / PROPERTY PURCHASE
Washington County, Pennsylvania, USA on 10 November 1797

Heirs of William Caldwell of Buffalo Creek, Washington, Pennsylvania sold 64 acres to Robert Guthrie.

1797: JEFFERSON COUNTY, OHIO FORMATION
Six years before Ohio was granted statehood, Jefferson County was formed July 29, 1797 as declared by General Arthur St. Claire, Governor of the Northwest Territory. A fort was built in 1789 along the shore of the Ohio River in the area of Steubenville, called “Fort Steuben”, for the protection of the surveyors who surveyed the public land. [SOURCE]

1797-1800: REMOVED to HARRISON COUNTY, OHIO
Robert Guthrie and family are said to have settled in Harrison County, Ohio about eight miles south of Cadiz. The county was not officially formed until 1813 from parts of Jefferson (1797) and Tuscarawas (1808) Counties. This will account for some of the other records for this family found in those locations.

1798: BIRTH of SON – JAMES CALDWELL GUTHRIE
Washington County, Pennsylvania, USA on 27 January 1798

1800: 1st MARRIAGE of SON – WILLIAM GUTHRIE to ELEANOR EVANS
Pennsylvania or Ohio about 1800

William and Eleanor were parents to 12 children: Samuel (1801), Robert David (1802), John Evans (1806), William Patterson (1807), Jane C (1809), Francis E (1810), Elizabeth (1813), Nathaniel South (1816), Mary (1818), James (1820), Sarah (1821), and Lydia (1824).

1800: BIRTH of SON – JOSEPH GUTHRIE
Deersville, Harrison, Ohio, USA on 4 March 1800

1802: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – SARAH ‘SALLY’ GUTHRIE
Harrison County, Ohio, USA on 27 July 1802

1803: TOWN of CADIZ ESTABLISHED
Harrison County, Ohio, USA

The town of Cadiz was established at the juncture of two major roads, one from Pittsburgh and one from Washington, Pennsylvania.

1804: MARRIAGE of SON – NATHANIEL GUTHRIE to NANCY SOUTH
Washington County, Pennsylvania, USA about 1804

This is an estimated DOM and likely location. Nathaniel and Nancy moved to Ohio settling in what would become Harrison County. They had three children: Peter (1806), Nancy (1808), and Samuel (1809). Both Nathaniel and Nancy were living at the time of the 1850 census, which identifies Nathaniel as a farmer.

1804: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – MARTHA GUTHRIE
Harrison County, Ohio, USA on 4 May 1804

1806: MARRIAGE of DAUGHTER – MARGARET GUTHRIE to ROBERT THOMAS FINNEY
Pennsylvania, USA on 11 December 1784

Based on the date, this marriage would have taken place in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania. The county did not become Washington County until 1791. Peggy and Robert settled in Nottingham, Harrison County, Ohio. They had 10 children: Maria (1809), Joseph (1810), Jane C (1812), Robert Potts (1814), David A (1815), William Guthrie (1818), Thomas D (1820), Sarah K (1822), James (1825), and John (1831). Husband Robert died in 1843. Peggy died 7 years later in March of 1850.

1806: MARRIAGE of DAUGHTER – ELIZABETH GUTHRIE to ADAM FIGLEY
Jefferson County, Ohio, USA on 8 December 1806

Elizabeth Guthrie and her husband Adam Figley lived in Nottingham and Moorefield townships in Harrison County, Ohio. They were parents to 8 children: Jane (1807), Jacob (1810), Delila (1814), Robert (1814), Rebecca (1816), Joseph (1818), Elizabeth (1821), and Ellinor (18??). Adam Figley was a farmer. Elizabeth died in 1833 survived by her husband who died 9 Mar 1850.

1808: FORMATION of TUSCARAWAS COUNTY, OHIO
Tuscarawas County was formed from Muskingum, Feb. 15, 1808. The name is that of an Indian tribe, and in one of their dialects signifies “open mouth.” This is a fertile, well-cultivated county, partly level and partly rolling and hilly.  Built in 1778, Fort Laurens was the only military fort built in the state of Ohio during the Revolutionary War, was located on the west bank on the Tuscarawas River near the town of Bolivar.

1808: BIRTH of SON – JOSIAH GUTHRIE
Deersville, Harrison, Ohio, USA on 27 August 1808

1809: MARRIAGE of SON – ROBERT CALDWELL GUTHRIE to JANE CUNNINGHAM
Pennsylvania or Ohio, USA on 15 Feb 1809

Robert Caldwell Guthrie married Jane Cunningham on 15 Feb 1809. I have Pennsylvania listed, but the family was already in Ohio by this date, so it may have occurred there. Robert served in the War of 1812. He and Jane were parents to 16 children: Lydia G (1810), David (1812), Margaret (1814), Sarah (1815), Benjamin C (1817), William (1819), Mary (1820), Robert Cunningham (1822), Nathaniel Thomas (1825), Rebecca A (1827), Julia Ann (1828), Martha L (1830), Isabel (1835), Elizabeth A (1836), Sophia M (1837), and an unidentified infant. Robert died on 18 Feb 1854.

1811: MARRIAGE of SON – SAMUEL GUTHRIE to ELIZABETH SHAW
Ohio, USA about 1811

This is an estimated DOM based on the earliest known birth date of one of their children in 1812. Samuel and Elizabeth were definitely married before 1827 when her father, Gavin Shaw, wrote his will naming Samuel as his son-in-law. Likely married before 1820 when their household was listed in the Cadiz, Harrison, Ohio census. Samuel and Elizabeth were parents to 8 children: Guian S (1812), Eleanor (1817), Infant Son (1824), Robert (1826), Jane B J (1833), Eliza (18??), Sarah (18??) and Mary (18??). Samuel died in New Athens, Harrison, OH on 17 Sep 1851. Elizabeth survived him by 17 years.

1812: MARRIAGE of DAUGHTER – MARY GUTHRIE to TIMOTHY TITUS
Jefferson, Jefferson, Ohio, USA on 13 Jan 1812

Polly and Timothy Titus had 10 children: Uriah (1813), Jane (1815), Rachel (1816), William Sanford (1818), Samuel Caldwell (1819), Sarah Amanda (1822), Mary Ann (1824), Jonathon C (1825), Timothy Taylor (1829), and Eliza (1833). Polly’s death occurred when she was 55 on 8 April 1848. Her husband Timothy died on 14 January 1859.

1813: FORMATION of HARRISON COUNTY, OHIO
01 Feb 1813 – HARRISON created from JEFFERSON and TUSCARAWAS. 
[Ohio: Individual County Chronologies]

1814: 1st MARRIAGE of DAUGHTER – AGNES ‘NANCY’ F GUTHRIE to EDMUND ADAMS
Belmont County, Ohio, USA on 31 Oct 1814

This was the first of two marriages for Nancy Guthrie. Her husband Edmund presumably died soon afterward. They had only 1 child named for his father: Edmund W (1815).

1815: ROBERT GUTHRIE’S LAST WILL & TESTAMENT WRITTEN
Cadiz, Harrison, Ohio, USA on 2 May 1815

ROBERT GUTTERY’S WILL
In the name of God Amen; I ROBERT GUTTERY of Cadiz Township in the County of Harrison and State of Ohio am weak of Body, tho of Perfect mind and Memory and calling to mind the Mortality of Nature and knowing that it is appointed for all men one to Die, I do ordain, constitute, and ___ this my last Will and Testament, and principally and first of all, I recommend my soul to God that gave it and my body to the Earth to be Buried in a Christian decent manner at the discretion of my Executors hereafter named, and as to my worldly affairs which it hath pleased God to bless me with, after my Just Debts and funeral charges is paid I leave to be divided in the following manner, Viz. I Will the third of all I possess to my beloved WIFE except fifty acres of land to my son ROBERT GUTTERY on the West side of said quarter where I now hold it being the Nor-West quarter section thirty fifth Township ninth Range five, until her Death and then to be divided amongst my Children, and further I leave to my sons NATHANIEL and JOHN thirty dollars, a __ to be paid when my Youngest son JOSIAH becomes of age or if in ease of his Death the next youngest son after him, likewise SAMUEL the same as NATHANIEL & JOHN, also WILLIAM and ROBERT five dollars to be paid at the same time, also I leave to my four youngest sons, DAVID, JAMES, JOSEPH, and JONAH, and equal share except JOSIAH fifty dollars more than the rest, also I leave to my four Daughters namely JANE, NANCY, SALLY & MARTHA twenty dollars a piece, also my Daughters which is married namely ELIZABETH, PEGGY, and POLLY, one dollar a piece to be paid when my son JOSIAH becomes of age; I do constitute and appoint my Beloved sons WILLIAM and ROBERT GUTTERY executors to sell all my moveable Property at my death. The Land is not to be sold before my youngest son JOSIAH becomes of age and then to be equally divided amongst my found youngest sons namely DAVID, JAMES, JOSEPH, and JOSIAH, and further it is my Will that the money of all my moveable property should be put out on Interest until the sale of my Land except the thirds I will to my beloved wife JANE. Signed and sealed in the presence of us this second day of May 1815.

Witnesses –
George S. Brocke
Charles Robison

Robert (his mark) Guttery

State of Ohio, Harrison County
At a Court of Common Pleas held at Cadiz in and for said County of Harrison on teh fifth day of July in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and fifteen personally appeared in open court George S Brocke and Charles Robison the subscribing witnesses to the foregoing last Will and Testament of Robert Guttery deceased and upon their Solemn Oaths did declare that they were present when the Testator Robert Guttery deceased Signed and acknowledged the same and that they saw him sign and seal the same, and heard him pronounce and declare the same to be his last will and testament and that they believed the Tesator to be of sound mind and memory and judgment at the time of so doing.
Attest – Wm. Fingley, Clerk

1815: DEATH of ROBERT GUTHRIE
Cadiz, Harrison, Ohio, USA on 6 May 1815

Robert Guthrie is buried in the Nottingham Church cemetery south of Cadiz.

1815: DEATH of WIFE – ELIZABETH JANE CALDWELL GUTHRIE
Cadiz, Harrison, Ohio, USA on 31 May 1815

Jane died only a few weeks after her husband. Circumstances unknown. Had they both been ill?

1815: ADMINSTRATION of ESTATE
July Term 1815, Harrison County Adminstration Dockets

No. 40 – Robert Guttery Decd.
Will of Deceased proven probate granted to William Guttery and Robert Guttery the Executors in said will named. A – 57
Disberry Johnson appointed guardian for heirs of sd. Decd. A – 59
March Term 1822 Final Account passed balance for distribution $232.68-1/2 order of distribution B – 155
October Term 1835 Distribution made C – 447

1815: MARRIAGE of SON – JOHN ALLEN GUTHRIE to MARGARET CUNNINGHAM
Ohio, USA on 5 October 1815

Later in the year of his father’s death, John Allen Guthrie began a new era of his life through his marriage to Margaret Cunningham. They lived in Perry, Tuscarawas, Ohio raising 4 daughters and 3 sons: Lettie Ann (1816), Jane (1819), Lydia (1821), Nancy (1824), Robert (1827), Benjamin Cunningham (1832), and James Caldwell (1836). He was a farmer. Margaret died in 1858 with John surviving her by another 11 years. He passed away on 5 December 1869 in Pleasant Grove, Tuscarawas, Ohio.

1817: MARRIAGE of DAUGHTER – JANE GUTHRIE to JOHN COOK
Ohio, USA on 25 Feb 1817

No other deails known.

1820: 1st MARRIAGE of SON – DAVID GUTHRIE to MARY ANN KIRKPATRICK
Ohio, USA about 1820

This is an estimated DOM and probable location for David Guthrie’s first marriage. The Kirkpatricks who intermarried with the Guthries were likely related, but I don’t have the details. David and Mary Ann were parents to Jane (1821), Ann (1823), Elizabeth (1825), Samuel (1826), Hugh Wylie (1827), and Sarah (1831). Mary Ann died two years later in 1833. David remarried about 1835 to Sally Parrish.

1821: 1st MARRIAGE of SON – JAMES CALDWELL GUTHRIE to ELIZABETH AULD
Harrison County, Ohio, USA on 2 Aug 1821

James Caldwell Guthrie was married twice. His first wife was Elizabeth Auld whom he married about 1821. They had 9 children: Robert (1822), John Montgomery (1823), Jane (1826), Ann (1828), Nathaniel Caldwell (1831), William Lambert (1833), Andrew Isaac (1836), James Cunningham (1838), and David Anderson (1844). His wife ELizabeth died in 1844, and so he remarried about 1 year later to Mary A Stewart. They had an additional 4 children.

1822: 2nd MARRIAGE of DAUGHTER – AGNES ‘NANCY’ F GUTHRIE to JOHN MORROW KIRKPATRICK
Harrison County, Ohio, USA on 20 February 1822

Nancy Guthrie Adams married for a second time to John Morrow Kirpatrick in 1822. They had 8 children: Ann (1822), Elizabeth Jane (1823), Nancy K (1825), Hugh Waters (1827), Sarah (1829), Robert Guthrie (1831), John (1833) and Caroline C (1837). Her husband John died in 1864 and Nancy in 1877.

1822: MARRIAGE of DAUGHTER – MARTHA GUTHRIE to JAMES LONG
Richland County, Ohio, USA on 20 August 1822

Martha Guthrie and James Long were parents to 7 children, but I don’t have the details of when each child was born. Their names were: Benajah Boardman, Jane C., Robert E., John C., Elizabeth, Martha A., and Mary C. At some point they moved to Pleasant Lake, Steuben, Indiana where Martha died at the age of 32 on 16 December 1836. James remarried about 1837 to Sarah Reynolds with whom he had 7 more children: Caroline (1838), David (18??), Albert William (18??), Isabel (18??), Nancy S (18??), Hugh Dennis (18??), and James Hutchinson (1855). James Long reportedly died in Ohio on 27 July 1857. His widow Sarah survived him and died in 1899.

1823: MARRIAGE of DAUGHTER – SARAH GUTHRIE to WILLIAM K KIRKPATRICK
Athens, Harrison, Ohio, USA on 25 December 1823

Sarah Guthrie and William K Kirkpatrick were married on Christmas Day in 1823. They settled in Moorefield, Harrison, Ohio to raise their 11 children: James (1824), Robert G (1826), Joseph C (1828), Hugh Lawrence (1829), Mary Jane (1831), Adeline (1833), Sarah (1835), Elizabeth (1837), John (1839), Nancy M (1841), and Margaret (1844). Sarah died in Moorefield at the age of 82 on 14 January 1855. William died three years later.

1830: MARRIAGE of SON – JOSIAH GUTHRIE to RACHEL MYERS
Tuscarawas, Tuscarawas, Ohio, USA on 6 May 1830

Josiah Guthrie, the youngest son of the family, married Rachel Myers in 1830. They lived initially in Tuscarawas County, where they were listed in the 1830 census, and by 1840 were in Harrison County, Ohio living in the town of Franklin. They had 7 children: Michael M (1833), Joseph Huffman (1834), Martha Jane (1836), David B (1838), Elizabeth Ann (1841), John W (1844), and George Washington (1847). Josiah was a farmer. He died at only 49 years of age on 18 January 1858. His widow Rachel lived until 1881.

1831: MARRIAGE of SON – JOSEPH GUTHRIE to NANCY TURBETT
Ohio, USA about 1831

Joseph Guthrie marriage Nancy Turbett about 1831, an estimated DOM based on the birthdate of their eldest child. They lived in Pike, Knox, Ohio raising their family. Children: Samuel (1832), Sarah Jane (1834), Eleanor (1838), Mary Ann (1840), John (1845), Marilla (1848), Rebecca (18??) and Isabella (18??). Joseph Guthrie was a farmer. He died at the age of 70 on 15 April 1879. Nancy survived him by 4 years dying in 1883.

1835: 2nd MARRIAGE of SON – DAVID GUTHRIE to SARAH ‘SALLY’ PARRISH
Knox County, Ohio, USA about 1835

David Guthrie, a widower, remarried within 2 years of his wife Mary Ann Kirkpatrick’s death. They had 6 children. His new wife was Sarah ‘Sally’ Parish with whom he had another 10 children: William (1837), David (1839), Francis Marion (1840), Rachel M (1843), James G (1845), John N (1847), Elijah ‘Elza’ (1849), Nancy (1851), Mary E (1853), and Nathan (1861). David was a farmer. He died on 22 July 1870 and is buried at Four Corners Cemetery. Sally died in 1890.

1839: DEATH of DAUGHTER-IN-LAW – ELEANOR (EVANS) GUTHRIE
Blooming Grove, Richland, Ohio on 19th or 29 July 1839

According to her tombstone, which lists either the 19th or 29th of July 1839, Eleanor was 59 years 9 months 22 days old at her death. That would make her DOB either 27 Sep 1779 or 7 Oct 1779. Online trees sometimes list her DOB as 1784.

1840: 2nd MARRIAGE of SON – WILLIAM GUTHRIE to ELIZABETH FINCH
Richland, Richland, Ohio, USA on 6 Aug 1840

William Guthrie remarried about 1 year after the death of his first wife, Eleanor. Online trees do not appear to list Elizabeth Finch’s parents. There were several families of the Finch surname listed in Richland County, Ohio during the 1840 census. William and Elizabeth had 2 sons: David F (1842) and Stephen A (1848).

1845: 2nd MARRIAGE of SON – JAMES CALDWELL GUTHRIE to MARY STEWART
Ohio, USA about 1845

James was a widower with a large family when he married Mary A Stewart about 1845. She was about 32 years old at the time. They had 4 children: Archibald (1846), Samuel (1848), Margaret Ellen (1850), and Sarah Jane (1853). James died on 22 Feb 1864 in Deersville, Harrison, Ohio.

1854: DEATH of SON – WILLIAM GUTHRIE
Richland County, Ohio on 2 November 1854

William Guthrie died at the age of 74 years 2 months and 23 days. He is buried at the Rome Presbyterian Church Revolutionary War Cemetery. His wife Elizabeth survived him. She died in 1873.



The Guthrie DNA Project:

STATUS: Genetic Mismatch
One Y-DNA test represents the descendants of the Guthrie-Caldwell family. Results do not match any of the established Guthrie Family Groups.

Guthrie Family Group: GFG2C
Group Designation: GFG2C

Haplogroup: I-M253
Confirmed Haplogroup: No

Y-DNA Kits:
Kit 320661 (+FF)

Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > William Guthrie/Eleanor Evans > Francis E Guthrie/Matilda Stuart (2xGGP)

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Kits:
Kit 23890
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > William Guthrie/Eleanor Evans > Lydia Guthrie/James G Crawford > William M Crawford/Mary Jane Swanger (2xGGP)

Kit 105057
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > David Guthrie/Mary Ann Kirkpatrick > Elizabeth Guthrie/John Connell Moss (2xGGP)

Kit 216257
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > Mary Guthrie/Timothy Titus > William S Titus/Elizabeth Niesz (2xGGP)

Kit 222038
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > Margaret Guthrie/Robert Thomas Finney > Joseph Finney/Elizabeth Brownlee > James W Finney/America Spears (2xGGP)

Kit 263188
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > Margaret Guthrie/Robert Thomas Finney > Thomas D Finney/Susannah Cockerel (2xGGP)

Kit 287172
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > Margaret Guthrie/Robert Thomas Finney > Thomas D Finney/Susannah Cockerel > Sarah Jane Finney/Leander R Stocker (2GGP)

Kit 458935
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > William Guthrie/Eleanor Evans > Robert David Guthrie/Rebecca Henry > Elizabeth Jane Guthrie/Charles Wesley Eames (2xGGP)

Kit 890780
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > William Guthrie/Eleanor Evans > Nathaniel South Guthrie/Sarah S Turbett (GGP)

Kit 893003
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > William Guthrie/Eleanor Evans > Nathaniel South Guthrie/Sarah S Turbett (2xGGP)

Kit B77338
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > William Guthrie/Eleanor Evans > Robert David Guthrie/Rebecca Henry > Elizabeth Jane Guthrie/Charles Wesley Eames (2xGGP)

Kit B98825
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > William Guthrie/Eleanor Evans > Robert David Guthrie/Rebecca Henry > Elizabeth Jane Guthrie/Charles Wesley Eames (2xGGP)

Kit B534662
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth Jane Caldwell > William Guthrie/Eleanor Evans > Francis E Guthrie/Matilda Stuart > William Scott Guthrie/Martha Newell (2xGGP)


The most common surname match at the Y67-marker level is TODD. 7 of 26 men are of the TODD surname. The closest match at Y67 is to a man of the SMITH surname descending from Robert Smith b1653 in Rotterdam, South Holland. There are two matches at the Y111 level: the Smith man and one of the Todd men.

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  1. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android This is one of my Guthrie lines. How can I assist with identifying who to approach for DNA testing? (This is a maternal line. My second line, paternal, has begun/ended with Alexander Wilson Guthrie, likely born in Pa., about 1820. I find him listed in an Ohio medical college just prior to 1850. He next appears in the 1850 census in German Twp., Harrison, Ohio.My father, his grandson, is still alive. 

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    • As you can imagine, it is often difficult to track down living individuals when privacy is important most of us, especially if we’re planning to ask for some DNA. I suggest that you start with people and families who are already interested in genealogy. Check Ancestry or other locations where trees are posted to see who also descends from Robert Guthrie. We need a male Guthrie for Y-DNA testing. Maybe they’ll be in a better position to know a relative who might be interested in testing. The second method is to meticulously track every line of descent possible using any post-1940 census record available to identify a male Guthrie to contact by phone or email. This always feels a bit stalkery, but you might get lucky. — Ann

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  2. I might be your guy.
    If my research is correct
    Robert Caldwell Guthrie
    David Guthrie
    Joseph Gordon Guthrie
    George Boardman Guthrie
    George Boardman Guthrie jr
    Me…Gordon David Guthrie

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