Guthrie DNA Project

PROJECT GOALS:

To determine the shared ancestry of Guthrie families around the world through DNA testing.

The GUTHRIE surname has been in existence for at least 700 years since Squire Guthrie was sent to France to bring William Wallace back to Scotland. The charter for the BARONY of GUTHRIE has been in existence since the time of King David II of Scotland (1324-1371). Burke’s ‘Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry’ indicates that the origins of the Guthrie surname extend back to a time where its earliest writs are unattainable, and thus untraceable before the reign of James II of Scotland.

DNA testing has proven the existence of many GUTHRIE FAMILY GROUPS, meaning that they have ancestors of different genetic origins. Some may have descended from the ‘Landed Gentry’ of historical note. Others may have assumed the GUTHRIE name at a time that surnames came into use during the 10th-12th centuries because they were in some way associated with the family or the location. The surname of origin may also have been altered to match a local one.

Join us as we discover more about our diverse history using the science of DNA to strengthen our genealogical pursuits. Each Guthrie DNA Project participant brings new information. Your DNA could help provide new clues and break down some of those proverbial brick walls in our traditional family research.

We need the participation of Guthries from Scotland and Ireland to assist the rest of us. In order to bridge the gap between your homeland and ours, whether that be in the USA and Canada, or in Australia and New Zealand, we need DNA from families who remain ensconced in our ancestral places. Your close geographic ties can help us learn more about our origins while also letting you discover how far your family genes have travelled.

Matching Y-DNA tests collected from Guthrie men reveal their shared direct paternal ancestry. Lineages are then placed into GUTHRIE FAMILY GROUPS. The project uses Autosomal DNA testing from anyone of Guthrie ancestry in order to provide genetic clues for lines without a male Guthrie representing them. This data will be used by Guthrie DNA Project participants to identify their ancestral origins.

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JOINING THE PROJECT:

Family Tree DNA maintains the platform for the Surname Projects. We are a genetic genealogy project, which means members are required to have either Y-DNA tests (if applicable to the Guthrie Project) or an Autosomal DNA test for analysis. You must also be willing to share the details of your direct Guthrie ancestry with the administrator in order to verify your listed lineage, and to use it for data comparison. Lineages are documented in a Research Tree for use by our members and the public, however all living individuals remain privatized. DNA results and data are maintained by FTDNA to ensure your privacy. Your names do not show up on public records, only a kit number.

To join:

  1. Sign Up for an Account at Family Tree DNA
  2. Purchase a DNA test. See the Testing Recommendations.
  3. You can also transfer an Autosomal DNA test from AncestryDNA, 23andMe, or HeritageDNA.
  4. Complete a Join Request form for the Guthrie DNA Project.

There is no cost to join the project nor any expectation of participation in group discussions, although the latter is encouraged. A group administrator will review your Y-DNA or Autosomal DNA matches. Guthrie men will be placed directly into the Guthrie Family Group if the Y-DNA results match, and an analysis of the raw results will be provided. People with Autosomal DNA tests (AncestryDNA, Family Finder, HeritageDNA, 23andMe) will receive a review of their matches to other people listing Guthrie ancestry, and information we have about their Guthrie origins (EX: Guthrie Family Group, if known, or Ungrouped Status). Due to the nature of Autosomal DNA, these tests may or may not provide a clear picture of an association with a specific group.

Project administrators are volunteers. We are not certified genealogists, nor geneticists. Please consider that we are here to learn about your ancestry from you as it may benefit us all. We are here to guide you on your genetic genealogy journey, and may have advise or information based on what has already been learned, but we should not be expected to conduct individual research for everyone.

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    • Only a handful of project members have purchased the Big-Y test or had more extensive SNP testing. There are several groups who have only the basic Haplogroup designations based on their STR tests. Those with some intermediate level of SNP testing will show downstream results, but not the terminal SNP.

      I can tell you what we know:
      GFG1A – R-M269 > R-Y62042
      GFG2A – R-M260 > R-L21 > R-Z30233 > R-BY57462
      GFG2B – R-M269
      GFG2C – I-M253
      GFG2D – R-M269 > R-Y89340
      GFG2E – R-M269
      GFG2F – R-M269
      GFG2G – G-M201
      GFG2H – G-M201
      GFG3A – R-M269 > R-BY12113
      GFG4A – I-M253
      GFG4B – R-M269
      GFG5 – R-M269
      GFG6 – R-M512/RM198 > R-Y371
      GFG7 – R-M512
      GFG8A – R-M229
      GFG8B – R-M269
      GFG8B – R-M269
      GFG9 – R-M269
      GFG10 – I-M253
      GFG11 – R-M269 > R-A10673
      GFG12 – I-P37
      GFG13 – I-M223
      GFG14 – R-M269
      GFG15 – I-M253

      16 Guthrie men also remain in the Ungrouped Family category. They originate from the following 3 Haplogroups: R-M198, R-M269, I-M253.

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  1. Hi – I am linked to the Southern Guthrie family, actually Robert Guttery, (1750) in Georgia, ending up in Alabama above Birmingham. I traced a Robert and John Guttery (misSpelled by prison officials) were captured in 1715 at Preston and were then transported to Charleston to fight Indians about 1716 or 1717. Are you aware of any work done on that branch of the Guthrie’s?

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    • There are at least 3 unrelated Guthrie families in that area. I believe your line is that of Robert Guttery c1750SC-1779GA associated with Guthrie Family Group 2A – Branch K. You can read about them under their group listing. All lineages linked to GFG2A share common paternal ancestry at some point further back in their collective tree.

      The prisoners from Preston are mentioned in the Related/Unrelated blog entry from Jan 15th dated Colonial Prisoners/Convicts, which includes scans of the original ship prisoner lists. Neither John Guthrie nor Robert Guthrie who were transported to South Carolina from Scotland have been definitively connected to either of these lineages, including your own, but they are very likely candidates. I have not previously read anything about the prisoners specifically being sent to Charleston to fight Indians.

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  2. Dear Ann; I read in your reply which I received on the 20th but cannot find today but mentions the AutosomalTest. This is new to me but with your direction will forward the results into the right hands.I was contacted by a party from Giles Co VA where my William Guthrie passed on around 1808.looking for assistance with her line. The process enabled to just send The Robert Guthrie, Esther Giles history which totally realigned her family lore. In this effort I recalled that somewhere in scraps of paper I have reference for my William in Frederick Co. which I’ll try to find. So fill me in on this Autosomal Test which I’ll order from 23andMe as what I’ve received from Ancestry’ test wasn’t very informative. My William line is the final effort in my genealogy I’m tired of just adding names.Craig Holland

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  3. Craig,
    I do not recommend 23andMe for genealogy. They are awesome for genetic health. The important thing with Autosomal DNA is comparing yourself to a large volume of results. Ancestry has that. I can help you interpret your results if you give me Viewer Access to them. Go to the bottom of your DNA settings page for the instructions and add my username AnnGU3 to give me access. I’ll send you a report. You can also upload your data to GedMatch for comparison to people from multiple providers.

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