D: John Guthery & Lydia Baldwin

John Guthery 1744PA-1823OH & Lydia Baldwin
of Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Ohio

CONTENTS:
Origin Theories
The Family of John Guthery & Lydia Baldwin
Historical Highlights
The Guthrie DNA Project
Online Resources


ORIGIN THEORIES for GFG2A – BRANCH D

Two separate lineages are tied to Guthrie Family Group 2A – Branch D due to a potential relationship with a man named Archibald Guthrie, who was probably born about 1710, and served in the French & Indian War in 1760 as a private in Captain Armstrong’s Company (PA Arch Set 5, vol 1, p305). Archibald Guthrey made a New Purchase Application which was drawn in the lottery 25 July 1769 and given the #3664. He applied for a 300-acre tract in North Huntingdon, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania. The survey was returned 31 March 1788 to John Irwin Esq, & Rec. Harrisonburg Survey Book C89, p273. That is the extent of what is known about the man who has been theorized to be the father of John Guthery (1744-1823) and Archibald Guthery (1753-1779).

Archibald Guthery of the French & Indian War is also theorized to be one of the men in the Brotherhood of Seven who came to America from Northern Ireland. There is no documented evidence of such an immigration, but the volume of men matching the GFG2A genetic profile seems to be sizable.

There are several criteria considered by Rev. Laurence R Guthrie, author of ‘American Guthrie and Allied Families’ in considering that Archibald is the father of the two men now assigned to Branch D lineages.

  • Use of the Guthery surname spelling variation.
  • Use of the forename Archibald: Archibald (Self & Son), John (Son)
  • Military Service in the same Revolutionary War regiment.

THE FAMILY of JOHN GUTHERY 1744PA-1823OH and LYDIA BALDWIN

JOHN GUTHERY
Born: 14 April 1774
Location: Pennsylvania
Marriage: 13 March 1771 in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania
Occupation: Unknown, Militia Captain, Later Lt. Colonel Col. Army
Death: 1 Jun 1823
Location: Piketon, Pike, Ohio, USA
Burial: Mound Cemetery, Piketon, Pike, Ohio

LYDIA BALDWIN
Born: 16 February 1755
Location: Greene County, Pennsylvania
Sons: William, Archibald, John, Francis, George, Aaron, Moses, Joseph
Daughters: Elizabeth, Priscilla, Rebecca, Lydia
Death: 14 July 1816
Location: Pike County, Ohio, USA
Burial: Mound Cemetery, Pike County, Ohio, USA


CHILDREN: 12

WILLIAM GUTHERY
1772PA-c1829

William Guthery was born in Greene County, PA in 1772. He married Catherine Theobald about 1793 in that county prior to the family’s move to Ohio. He purchased 106 acres of Piketon property from his father, John in 1806, and then a tow lot from his brother Archibald in 1815. He served as a juror. Wood from his land was furnished for the of the Court House in 1825. Lydia Guthery Peters reported her brother Wiliam’s death as occurring in about 1829 in Illinois. Catherine lived until about 1836.

Children: 6?
Sons: John?, George, William, Michael Ruhama, James
Daughters: Elizabeth, Nancy

Y-DNA Project Participants: Yes
Family Finder Participants: Yes
Note: Autosomal DNA match to the site coordinator who is GFG2A-Branch A

ARCHIBALD GUTHERY
1774PA-1831IN

Archibald Guthery was born 20 Jan 1774 in Greene County, Pennsylvania. He was married twice in life. First to Rachel Hudson, and then Nancy Phillips at unknown dates and locations. The children appear to be fully credited to his marriage to Nancy. They sold their Piketon property in 1815 to Archibald’s brother, William Guthery, and moved to Indiana. During the 1820 census, they were enumerated in Franklin, and by 1830 were living in Bartholomew. Archibald Guthery died about 1831 in the Blackhawk War.

Children: 5
Sons: Eli, Corbley
Daughters: Lydia, Mary, Matilda

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder Participants: No

JOHN GUTHERY
1776PA-1835OH

John Guthery was born 25 October 1776 in PA. He married Elinor Ellen Howard in Ross County, Ohio on 27 Dec 1799. He already owned property about that time and between 1801-1806 was involved in several land transactions, some of which were with his own family members. He was involved in county affairs by surveying land and plotting out the course for a road for Piketon. Records show that John Guthery died intestate on 21 June 1835 leaving no will. He is buried in Howard Cemetery in Wakefield, Pike County, Ohio.

Children: 3
Sons: None
Daughters: Cynthia Ann, Drucella, Eliza

Y-DNA Project Participants: N/A (He had no sons.)
Family Finder Participants: No

FRANCIS GUTHERY
1778PA-c1778PA

Francis Guthery was born on 1 January 1778 in Pennsylvania. He died in infancy of unknown causes.

GEORGE GUTHERY
1779PA-18__IL

George Guthery was born 26 March 1779. He married Sarah Howard, who was cousin to Ellen Howard, who married his brother John. George and his family moved to Illinois.

Children: 4
Sons: Baldwin, Samuel, John
Daughters: Priscilla

ELISABETH GUTHERY
1781PA-1868IA

Born on 26 January 1781, Elisabeth was the first daughter born to John and Lydia. She married Jonathan Clark on 29 September 1800 in Ross County, Ohio. Sometime after their marriage they settled in Muscatine, Iowa. They were named in the 1850 census there. Jonathan died on 18 March 1854 and Elisabeth in 1868, both in Muscatine.

Children: 5
Clark Sons: Joseph, Aaron
Clark Daughters: Minerva, Lovie, Charlotte

Family Finder Participants: No

PRISCILLA GUTHERY
1783PA-1874OH

Daughter Priscilla Guthery was born 16 January 1783 in Pennsylvania. She married William Collings in Ross County, Ohio on 19 February 1807. The Collings family had been in the Ohio territory at an even earlier date than the Guthries. William Collings had been hired by Priscilla’s father, John Guthery, to build a grist and saw mill on Big Beaver River. They raised their family in Piketon, Pike County, Ohio. Priscilla died 21 October 1874 and is buried at Mound Cemetery.

Children: 6
Collings Sons: Isaac Newton, James
Collings Daughters: Maria Louisa, Lydia, Minerva Jane, Rebecca Baldwin

Family Finder Participants: No

AARON GUTHERY
1784PA-1825OH

Aaron Guthery was born 31 Dec 1784 in Pennsylvania. He married Nancy Howard, the sister to George Guthery’s wife, Sarah, and cousin to John’s wife Ellen. Aaron purchased property in Piketon, first from his father in 1815, consisting of 93 acres, and then the following year from James Corwin, another 93 acres, likely proportioned town lots since they are of equal size. County Commissioner Records show that Aaron Guthery served as a Justice of the Peace and as Sheriff of Piketon. He also served as an auditor. Aaron died on 4 May 1825 in Pike County, Ohio.

A mortuary notice published in the Ohio Monitor on Saturday, 14 May 1825:
At Piketon, on the 4th inst. Aaron Guthery, Esq. aged 40 years. The deceased was Sheriff and Auditor of Pike County, which offices he filled with satisfaction to the public and credit to himself. As a moral man, a worthy citizen, and a good officer, Mr Guthery was held in high estimate. He has left three orphan children to lament his untimely end.–Times.

Children: 3
Sons: William, Alfred
Daughters: Hannah

Y-DNA Project Participants: Yes
Family Finder Participants: Yes

REBECCA GUTHERY
1786PA-1819OH

Rebecca Guthery was born on 21 January 1786 in Pennsylvania. She married James Daniel about 1808. They had only two children as Rebecca died on the 15th or 16th of June 1819. Their daughter Eliza Daniels, who later married a Stewart, was known during the Civil War era as “Mother Stewart” while working with the Soldiers’ Aid Societies. She was an early temperance movement leader and women’s crusader.

MOSES GUTHERY
1787PA-1828OH

Moses Guthery was born on 12 February 1787 in Pennsylvania. He and his brother Joseph purchased 96 acres in Ross County from their father, John in 1806. He resided for a time in Pee Pee Township. His marriage to Hannah Hastings took place 10 Jan 1811. During his residence in Piketon, he served as a coroner and constable. Moses died intestate in 1828 leaving no will.

Children: 3
Sons: Silas B
Daughters: Jane, Eliza B

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder Participants: Yes

JOSEPH D GUTHERY
1790PA-1856OH

Joseph D Guthery was born 29 March 1790 in Pennsylvania. Like many of his brothers, he purchased Pike County property in 1806 from their father, John. He served as a private in the War of 1812 between 4 Sep – 14 Oct 1812 in Capt. David Shelby’s Mounted Company, probably out of Ross County, OH. He married Hannah Never on 2 March 1815. Their children were born in Pike County, Ohio. Joseph sold his property 18 August 1827 and after which moved his family to Marion County, Ohio. He died there on 5 February 1856 at the age of 65. His wife Hannah survived him by several years.

LYDIA GUTHERY
1794PA-1875OH

Lydia Guthery was born on 17 Oct 1794 in Pennsylvania. An interview was published in the Pike County Republican Newspaper of Waverly, Ohio on 4 April 1872 wherein the 78-year old shared everything she knew about her parents and their descendants. A transcript is located in the Gallery section on her page of the Guthrie Research tree. Lydia married William D Peters in Pike County, Ohio on 16 December 1817. They were parents to 8 children. William died in 1837 at 40 years of age. Lydia lived until she was 80 taking her last breath on 25 January 1875.

Children: 8
Peters Sons: Alford Newton, John Jackson, William Bolivar, Francis Marion, Elisha Allen
Peters Daughters: Elizabeth, Priscilla C, Harriett Ann

Family Finder Participants: Yes


HISTORICAL HIGHLIGHTS

1700-1720: BIRTH OF ARCHIBALD GUTHERY the IMMIGRANT (I)
This birth range is an estimate based on the known birth dates of presumed sons John and Archibald Guthery in 1744 and 1753 respectively making him around 20-ish to 40-ish at the elder son’s birth. Family tradition suggests his birth location is probably Northern Ireland.

1720-1740: AMERICAN IMMIGRATION
According to descendants of Archibald Guthery’s line, the family came to America from Northern Ireland. No specifics or documentation found.

1740s: MARRIAGE
The identity of Archibald Guthery’s spouse is unknown. The birth of the eldest known son is in 1744, so presumably a marriage would have occurred about that time. There could be other children undocumented for this family if indeed they are a family at all.

1744: BIRTH OF PRESUMED SON – JOHN GUTHERY
John Guthery was born in Pennsylvania on 14 April 1744. He married Lydia Baldwin in 1771 and they settled on the Monongahela River near the mouth of Big Whitely Creek, initially a part of Bedford County, Virginia that later became part of Washington County, Pennsylvania after the settlement of a land dispute between the two states. They were parents to 8 sons and 4 daughters. John was a Revolutionary War Soldier serving in the same regiment as his presumed brother Archibald. This family eventually moved to Pike County, Ohio where John is credited as the person who ‘laid out the town of Piketon, and was instrumental in making it the county seat’. 

1753: BIRTH of PRESUMED SON – ARCHIBALD GUTHERY (II)
Archibald Guthery was born in Pennsylvania on February 1753, probably in Westmoreland or Washington County. Greene County, Pennsylvania was not formed until 1796 from parts of Washington County. He would later own property in Whitely, Greene, PA. 

1760: MILITARY SERVICE in the FRENCH & INDIAN WAR
Pennsylvania, Fort Bedford – 24 January 1760
Archibald Guthery (The Immigrant) served as a private in Captain Armstrong’s company during the French & Indian War stationed at the Fort Bedford Garrison. (PA Arch Set 5, Vol 1, p.305)

Fort Bedford was originally used as a staging ground and central storage area by the British Army’s westward push toward the French garrisons during the French & Indian War. After the bulk of the army moved out the fort was garrisoned by about 800 men, and saw little action during the war.

Ford Bedford

1769: PROPERTY WARRANT
North Huntingdon, Westmoreland, Pennsylvania – 25 July 1769
Archibald Guthrey made a New Purchase Application which was drawn in the lottery 25 July 1769 and given the #3664. He applied for a 300-acre tract. The survey was ret’d 31 Mar 1788 to John Irwin Esq. & Rec. Harrisonburg Survey Book C89, p273.

AFTER 1769: DEATH of ARCHIBALD GUTHERY (THE IMMIGRANT)
The death of Archibald Guthery (The Immigrant / French & Indian War) is a mystery. This 1769 document is the last credited to him.

1770: Property Warrant by Lydia Baldwin
Lydia Baldwin, daughter of Francis and Charity (Harlan-Hackney) Baldwin, received a land warrant in her own name dated 1 Nov 1770, known as ‘Lydia’s Bottom’, containing 321 acres at the mouth of Big Whitley Creek along the Monongahela River. This property was later patented by Lydia and her husband, John Guthery, on 17 Apr 1792, and was where they lived prior to the family’s move to Ohio between 1797-8. It was also where John maintained Fort Guthery from 1776-1783. The land was located in the area claimed by both Pennsylvania and Virginia.

‘Lydia’s Bottom’ land on the Monongahela River

1771: MARRIAGE of JOHN GUTHERY and LYDIA BALDWIN
John and Lydia were married on 13 March 1771 in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania.

Abt. 1772: VIRGINIA vs. PENNSYLVANIA
A year or so after their marriage, John & Lydia settled on the Monangahela near the mouth of Big Whitley Creek. Initially part of Virginia, the area was in dispute bet. VA & PA. Eventually fell into area of Washington, PA, which later divided and became Greene County, PA. 

Source: The Tenmile Country and Its Pioneers, by Howard L. Leckey 
“John Guthery(Guthrie, Gutherie, Guthrey, Gutrey) one of the prominent pioneer settlers on the Monongahela, settled near the mouth of the Big Whiteley Creek before 1772, where his name is found as an “inmate” or boarder in the Springhill Township, Bedford County tax lists for 1772.”

1772: BIRTH of SON – WILLIAM GUTHERY
Bible records show William’s birth was on 4 Jan 1772. Based on the Tax List of Springhill Twp, Bedford, Virginia, the Gutherys were living there at the time. He married Catherine Theobald in 1793. They had 3 sons and 3 daughters. William died in 1829 in Vermillion, Illinois. He is a direct ancestor of several DNA Project participants.

1773: SPRINGHILL, VIRGINIA
John Guthery was included on a list of inmates (residents) of Springhill, Bedford, Virginia in 1773.

1774: BIRTH of SON – ARCHIBALD GUTHERY
Bible records show Archibald’s birth was on 20 Jan 1774. According to ‘The Tenmile Country‘, Archibald married Rachel Hudson, daughter of William and Mary Hudson. His sister, Lydia Guthery Peters stated that he married Nancy Philips by whom he had 5 children. Online trees list a variety of death dates & locations including a possibility of death during service in the Black Hawk War.

1776: CONTINENTAL ARMY (RECRUITMENT & SERVICE)
Recruited and enlisted in Captain Wilson’s Company of 8th Pennsylvania Regiment of the Continental Line serving at Fort Pitt.

1776: BIRTH of SON – JOHN GUTHERY
Records show that John’s birth was on 25 Oct 1776. He died intestate in 1824 in Pike County, Ohio. He married Elinor Ellen Howard in Ross County, Ohio on 27 Dec 1799. They raised 3 children in Piketon, Pike, Ohio.

1776: THE ALMOST STATE OF WESTSYLVANIA
In the years before the American Revolutionary War jurisdiction of the region west of the Allegheny Mountains around Pittsburgh and along the Ohio River had been disputed between the British colonies of Virginia and Pennsylvania. The establishment of the Mason-Dixon line between PA and MD would have settled the dispute, but the survey of the final miles was abandoned in 1767 and not completed until 1784. It was unclear during the 1770s if Pittsburgh and its environs was located in Pennsylvania or Virginia. Both colonies made claims and produced actions based on their ownership of the area. Virginia administered the region as the District of West Augusta, while Pennsylvania considered it to be a part of Westmoreland County. This area nearly became the 14th state in the newly formed United States had it been recognized. See Wikipedia for more.

1776-1777: THE MARCH TO KITTANNING
Assembled at Kittanning in the fall of 1776 and marched from there in January 1777 to join Washington’s army at Quibbletown, NJ. This march in midwinter was a terrible ordeal and many of the men died from exposure, inclu. John Guthery and Archibald Guthery.

1777: THE BATTLE OF BRANDYWINE
Took part in the Battle of Brandywine, which was a decisive victory for the British, left Philadelphia, the revolutionary capital, undefended. The British captured the city on September 26, beginning an occupation that would last until June 17.

1778: BIRTH and DEATH of SON – FRANCIS GUTHERY
Records show that Franis was born on 1 January 1778. He died in infancy of unknown causes. (Source: The Tenmile Country)

1778: MILITARY SERVICE
Colonel Broadhead’s expedition against the Indians at Coschocton and on the Muskingum River (Ohio)

1778: PROMOTION TO ENSIGN
Fort Macintosh, Beaver, Pennsylvania on 21 Dec 1778
While at Fort Macintosh John Guthery was made an ensign on December 21st, 1778. (For a complete record of this regiment see Pennsylvania Archives, Series V. vol. 3, pp. 305-376.)

1779: BIRTH of SON – GEORGE GUTHERY
Bible records show that George was born on 26 March 1779. George married Sarah Howard. 4 children. He was living in Seal, Pike, Ohio in 1820 and 1830, but reportedly moved to Illinois. No further details.

1780-1790: MILITIA CAPTAIN, WASHINGTON COUNTY, PA
John Guthery served as the Militia Captain in Washington County, PA. He maintained Fort Guthery / Guthery’s Fort during that era until 1783.

Elected captain of a militia company from his district on Big Whiteley Creek and according to William Harrod Jr. in his interview with L. C. Draper, maintained one of the protective forts of the section, named Guthery’s Fort or Fort Guthery. It was located beside the Monangahela River near the mouth of Big Whitley. (See 1780 map of George Washington).

Source: ‘The Guthrie Family of Greene County, Pennsylvania’ by Mary Gray May.
“The militia was the Minute Men of the region. They were subject to call without previous notice and many of them saw more rigorous service than the Continental regulars. They consisted of boys from the ages of fourteen to the early twenties largely, commanded by the older men, though boys not yet in their teens were sent out on scouting expeditions, with more mature members of the militia, along the wilderness trail to reconnoiter and report back to the neighborhood forts any news of an impending uprising. The discipline was loose and time of service was short. If they grew tired of the life or if they were needed back home, they simply went home and the term “deserter” did not convey a sense of ignominy that it does today. No disgrace was attached to it. Our John Guthery as Captain of one of these Battalions was very active both in maintaining the fort near his home and in acting as leader in scouting expeditions, or, as it was also called with perfectly honorable significance………spying.”  

1780: GEORGE WASHINGTON’S MAP

This survey map owned by George Washington is a potentially important historical map for the Guthrie family because it demonstrates just how close in proximity the Guthries of Branch D were living in relation to those of Branch B. Keep in mind that it could be the scale of the map, but you can interpret it and decide if I’m seeing things that aren’t there.

This map of the “Land Abt. Redstone and Fort Pitt” was given to George Washington by Capt. Crawford and contains Washington’s annotations. Click to see the full map.


1781: WASHINGTON COUNTY FORMATION
Washington County was formed from Westmoreland County, PA, which was originally part of the disputed land claimed by both PA and VA.

1782: MILITARY SERVICE
First Battalion, Washington County. Recruited in Whiteley and Greene townships (Greene County not formed until 1800)

1783: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – PRISCILLA GUTHERY
Birth records show that Priscilla was born on 16 January 1783. She married William Collings on 19 Feb 1807 in Ross, Ohio. They had 6 children and remained in Piketon, Pike, Ohio.

1784: BIRTH of SON – AARON GUTHERY
Aaron was documented in the family bible with a birth date of 31 Dec 1784. He was enumerated as a Head of Household in Pike County in 1820, with a wife and 3 daughters. Also living next door to his brother Moses at the time. ‘The Tenmile Country‘ names Aaron’s wife as Nancy Howard. Known children: Hannah, William, and Alfred Guthery, the two boys being born in 1821 and 1825 respectively. Aaron became the Pike County Sheriff for a time, but died in office in 1825. Aaron is the ancestor of a Y-DNA Project Participant. 

1786: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – REBECCA GUTHERY
Rebecca (aka Rebekah) was born on 21 Jan 1786 according to the family bible. She married James Daniels in 1808. She died 15 June 1819. One of their children was Eliza Daniels, who later married a Stewart. She became famous for her work as a Civil War Nurse and an activist in the Women’s Temperance Movement. Newspaper article, 1892.

“Mrs Stewart had a broad ‘gate of gifts’ as her heritage. Her grandfather was Col. Guthery of Revolutionary Fame, her father a Southern gentleman of the highest type, her mother’s family noted for their fearlessness and hatred of wrong. From both parents she inherits a mixture of Scotch-Irish, which accounts for her sturdy independence and her brightness of word and manner.”

Eliza Daniels Stewart
-aka-
“Mother Stewart”

1787: MOSES GUTHERY
Moses was born on 12 Feb 1787. He married Hannah Hastins on 10 Jan 1811. They lived in Pee Pee Township, Ross, Ohio, and later in Piketon, Pike, Ohio. Moses and Hannah were enumerated in 1820 with 2 sons and 2 daughters. He was both a coroner and constable in Piketon. He died in 1828 leaving no will.

1791: GREENSBORO TOWNSITE LAID OUT
John Guthery’s brother-in-law, Elias Stone, laid out the townsite of Greensboro. It was first called Greensburg, but changed to Greensboro to avoid confusion with the Greensburg of Westmoreland County, PA. John & Lydia’s land at ‘Lydia’s Bottom’ was adjacent to the townsite. (Source: Guthrie Family of Greene County, Pennsylvania) 

1790: US CENSUS of WASHINGTON COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA
Household of John Guthery: 1 male over 16, 5 males under 16, 3 females.

Note: Despite the changing names of counties, colonies, and states, the Guthrie family remained stationary on their property on Big Whitley Creek.

1790: BIRTH of SON – JOSEPH GUTHERY
Joseph was born on 29 March 1790 according to the family bible. He lived in Pee Pee Township, Ross, OH; Seal, Pike, OH & Big Island and Bowling Green, Marion, OH. He married Hannah Dever. They had at least 3 sons and 1 daughter. Joseph died in Marion, OH on 5 Feb 1856. He is buried in the Guthery Cemetery at La Rue, Marion, Ohio.

1792: PROPERTY PATENT
Lydia’s Bottom, Big Whitley Creek, Monangahela River, Washington, PA
See 1770 Land Warrant. Property located at ‘Lydia’s Bottom’, Mouth of Big Whitley Creek, Monangahela River. Adj. Greensboro. Original Warrant issued to Lydia Baldwin in 1770. Patent issued to John & Lydia Guthery. Fort Guthery was built on this property and maintained until 1783 and it was here that John & Lydia Guthery lived until they moved to Ohio. They also attended the church at Big Whitley Creek as it was near their home.

1794: BIRTH of DAUGHTER – LYDIA GUTHERY
Birth records show that Lydia was born on 17 October 1794. Census records indicate that she was born in Pennsylvania, which is significant because we don’t know the exact date the Guthrey family moved to Ohio. In her interview at age 78 she stated that the family moved to Ohio between 1797-1798. Lydia married William D. Peters. They had 10 children. William died before Lydia. She was listed as the Head of Household in the 1850 Census of Seal, Pike, Ohio. In 1860 & 1870, she was listed as living in the household of her daughter & son-in-law, the Bliss family. Lydia died between 1870 and 1880. She is buried in Haskins Cemetery.

ABOUT 1797:
“After selling his lands in Greene County, Pennsylvania, by a number of deeds of record, (John Guthery) moved by flatboat down the Monongahela and Ohio Rivers to where Portsmouth now stands, and then up the Scioto River to his claim in what is now Pike County, Ohio.” 

“Most of these families (including Guthrie) first came into “the prairie” about 1797.”

Pike County Revolutionary Soldiers

UNKNOWN DATES: PIONEER in PIKETON
Mary Gray May’s book credits John with the laying out of the town of Piketon and being instrumental in making it the county seat; years afterward the county seat was moved to Waverly. See History of Piketon

1800: RESIDENCE in OHIO
There is no 1800 US Census for Ohio. The Northwest Territory encompassed what is today the state of Ohio from 1787 to 1803.

1815: FORMATION of PIKE COUNTY, OHIO
Pike County was officially organized on 1 Feb 1815 from portions of Scioto, Ross, and Adams Counties.

1816: DEATH of LYDIA BALDWIN GUTHERY
Lydia died on 14 July 1816. Buried at Mound Cemetery, Piketon, Pike, OH.

1823: DEATH OF LT. COL. JOHN GUTHERY
John died on 1 Jun 1823. Buried at Mound Cemetery in Piketon, Pike, OH.


THEIR STORY

The family traditions reveal the Archibald Guthery line began in Northern Ireland, possibly in County Derry. The men of this line were farmers and soldiers, participating generation to generation in the struggled of colonial life on the frontiers of Western Pennsylvania.

John Guthery was a soldier in the Colonial Army. He continued service as a Militia Captain maintaining Guthery’s Fort along the Western Pennsylvania frontier. He and his wife, Lydia Baldwin raised their large family on Big Whitley Creek along the Monongahela River. They eventually moved their family to the Northwest Territory just before Ohio’s statehood.


RESOURCES:

‘The Guthrie Family of Greene County”, Pennsylvania’ by Mary Gray May (May be same as ‘History of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County, Pennsylvania’)

‘The Family Bible Record of John & Lidya (Baldwin) Guthery’, Chatanooga, TN Public Library, Contributed by Richard H. May of Mill Valley, California [SEE PDF IMAGES BELOW]

The Tenmile Country and Its Pioneers” by Howard L. Leckey, 1977.

‘American Guthrie and Allied Families’ by Laurence R. Guthrie, 1933.

National Archives File #S 41594 Pension Application of John Guthery, Revolutionary War 

Guthrie’s of Nodaway County, Missouri‘, (Lon’s FTM website) 

A Biographical History of Nodaway and Atchison Counties, Missouri‘, 1901. 

History of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County, Pennsylvania … By Richard Holman May, Mary Sibyl (Gray) May 

A supplement (including an index) to The history of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County, Pennsylvania… By Richard Holman May, Mary Sibyl Gray May 

Woman and Temperance, by Frances Elizabeth Willard and Mary Artimisia Lathbury. (Bio on “Mother Stewart”, a granddaughter of John & Lydia Guthery)

Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots: E-K By Patricia Law Hatcher 

A Directory of Towns, Villages and Hamlets of Nodaway County, Missouri, by Arthur Paul Moser. 

Nodaway County Resource Materials 

History of Greene County, Pennsylvania, p.815 by Samuel P. Bates, 1888, US/CAN 974.883 H2b, FHL 


RELATED GEOGRAPHY:

Augusta County, Virginia [Formed in 1738 from Orange]

Bedford County, Pennsylvania [Formed in 1771 from Cumberland]

West Augusta District, Virginia [Formed in 1773 from Augusta District]

Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania [Formed in 1773 from Bedford County, PA in 1773]

Monongalia County, Virginia [Formed in 1776 from West Augusta District along with Yohogalia and Ohio Counties.]

Agreement reached between PA and VA regarding state borders in 1779, but VA counties not officially eliminated until 1784-5. This includes all of Yohogalia, and parts of Ohio and Monongalia Counties, VA.

Washington County, Pennsylvania [Formed from Westmoreland, PA in 1781] 

Greene County, Pennsylvania [Formed in 1796 from Washington, PA]

Ross County, Ohio [Formed in 1798 from Adams, Hamilton & Washington, OH, a large county in central OH]


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GUTHRIE DNA PROJECT

Guthrie Family Group: GFG2A
Group Designation: Branch D – Cluster 4 (The Archibald Factor)

Haplogroup: R-M269
Confirmed Haplogroup: R-Z30233

Y-DNA Matches:  5
Kit 128728 (+FF)
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > William Guthery Sr/Catherine Theobald > Michael Ruhama Guthrie/Elizabeth Osborne > Perry Guthrie/Oceanna Amanda Willey (GGP) +more

Kit 245752
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > William Guthery Sr/Catherine Theobald > Michael Ruhama Guthrie/Elizabeth Osborne > Perry Guthrie/Oceanna Amanda Willey (GGP) +more

Kit 292715 (+FF)
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > Aaron Guthery/Nancy Howard > Alfred C Guthery/Julia Ann Houchins > William Franklin Guthrie/Sarah Elizabeth Willis > Charles Albert Guthrie/Ethel Murrell Pratt (GGP) +more

Kit 425544
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > William Guthery Sr/Catherine Theobald > John Guthery Sr/Margaret Sowders > John Guthery Jr/Delilah Thompson (GGP) +more

Kit 902807
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > William Guthery Sr/Catherine Theobald > John Guthery Sr/Margaret Sowders > Moses J Guthrie/Rebecca Thompson > William M Guthrie/Mary Etta Vandervort (GGP) +more


Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits:  12
Kit B32891
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > William Guthery Sr/Catherine Theobald > Michael Ruhama Guthrie/Elizabeth Osborne > Perry Guthrie/Oceanna Amanda Willey > Vernon Cecil Guthrie/Mabel Luella Moses (GGP) +more

Kit B59698
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > Joseph D Guthery/Hannah Dever > Isaac Frazier Guthery Sr/Rachel Frederick > Sybil Elizabeth Guthery/John Bedford Russell (GGP) +more

Kit B332575
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > Lydia Guthery/William D Peters > Alford Newton Peters/Julie McNeal > Edward E Peters/Mary Evelyn Clark > Ray Fremont Peters/Frances Bates (GGP)

Kit B333456
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > Lydia Guthery/William D Peters > Alford Newton Peters/Julie McNeal > Edward E Peters/Mary Evelyn Clark (GGP)

Kit B333934
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > Lydia Guthery/William D Peters > Alford Newton Peters/Julie McNeal (GGP)

Kit 310166
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > William Guthery Sr/Catherine Theobald > John Guthery Sr/Margaret Sowders > John Guthery Jr / Delila Thompson > John Marion Guthrie / Julia Ann Ramer (GGP)

Kit 351544
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > Joseph D Guthery/Hannah Dever > Isaac Frazier Guthery Sr/Rachel Frederick > Upton Keller Guthery/Sarah Janet Moore > Frederick Elder Guthery/Marguerite F Stewart (GGP) +more

Kit N11704
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > William Guthery Sr/Catherine Theobald > Elizabeth Guthrie/John William Sowders > Elizabeth Sowders/Samuel Shofner > Frances Marie Shofner/George Collins (GGP)

Kit 288138
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > Moses Guther/Hannah Hastings > Eliza B Guthery/David Eli Dutton > William Guthery Dutton/Delilah Godfrey > John Edward Dutton/Bertha M Eager > Harry Roy Dutton/Dora Elizabeth Call (GGP)

Kit 415083
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > Moses Guther/Hannah Hastings > Eliza B Guthery/David Eli Dutton > William Guthery Dutton/Delilah Godfrey > John Edward Dutton/Bertha M Eager (GGP)

Kit 534851
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > Moses Guther/Hannah Hastings > Eliza B Guthery/David Eli Dutton > William Guthery Dutton/Delilah Godfrey > John Edward Dutton/Bertha M Eager (GGP)

Kit 615990
John Guthery/Lydia Baldwin > William Guthery/Catherine Theobald > John Guthery/Delilah Thompson > John Marion Guthrie/Julia Ann Ramer > Wade Hampton Guthrie/Ethel Binkerd (GGP) +more


Findings:

John Guthery 1774PA-1823OH & wife Lydia Baldwin had 8 sons and 4 daughters.

Y-DNA Project Participants represent sons William and Aaron.
Lineages with autosomal DNA tests include William, Aaron, Moses, Joseph, and Lydia.

Kits 128728 and 245752 share a proven common in Michael Ruhama Guthrie 1811OH-1890MO. They also share a unique genetic marker not found elsewhere in the group. DYS715 – 25 (Group Mode DNA =24). This is likely a recent/random change occurring in the line, likely a pattern marker found within Michael’s descendant lines.

Kit 292715 has two markers not found in other John Guthery descendant lineages. 

The first is DYS485 = 35 (Group Mode DNA = 36). This variance is found in 3 other kits (as of 4/2019). Two of those are descendants of the Archibald Guthery-Rebecca Phillips line of Branch D. The other is found in a Branch B descendant of William Guthrie 17726PA-1787SC & Elizabeth Barnett.

The second marker is found only in descendants of the two Branch G lineages at DYS712 = 20 (Group Mode DNA = 19). Every Branch G participant who has tested at the Y111 level, which includes DYS712 has that result. Branch G consists of two brothers from Londonderry Ireland whose origin story reveals that they descend from the Guthries of Pitforthie.

READING & RESOURCES

BOOK: May, Mary Gray. The History of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County Pennsylvania and of Allied Families. Godfrey Memorial Library, Middletown, Connecticut, 1956.

BOOK: Leckey, Howard L. (2009). The Tenmile Country and Its Pioneer Families. United States: Genealogical Publishing Company.

BOOK: May, Mary Sibyl Gray (1956). The History of Lieutenant-Colonel John Guthery of Greene County Pennsylvania and of Allie Families

BOOK: William Hanna, The History of Greene County, Pennsylvania: Containing an Outline of the State from 1682 until the Formation of Washington County in 1781 (1882; Image Reprint, Internet Archives)

BOOK: Samuel Bates, The History of Greene County, Pennsylvania (1888; image reprint, Internet Archives)

ARTICLE: Editor. 2016. The Mason-Dixon Line. Southern Partisan. History of the Mason-Dixon Line.

MAPS: COLLECTION of MAPS on the VIRGINIA-PENNSYLVANIA BOUNDARY

MAP: Trespass of Yohogania, Monongalia, and Ohio Counties into Pennsylvania
Newman Library – Atlas of Historical County Boundaries

MAP: David Ramsey, Historical Map Collection, State of Pennsylvania (by Samuel Lewis, 1796)

TOWN HISTORY: GREENE COUNTY, PENNSYLVANIA – WHITELEY TOWNSHIP
Whiteley and Dunkard Townships, were formed in December 1794 (division of Greene Township) and Whiteley was incorporated in 1798. The bounds beginning at the head of Smith’s Run on the state line, down said run to the mouth, across Dunkard Creek to the mouth of Glade Run, up the said run to the head, along the ridge dividing Meadow run from Watkins Run, straight to the mouth of Montgomery Run on the north side of Whiteley Creek, thence up the said run to the head till it strikes the present township line, the upper or western district, to be called Whiteley Township

CHURCH RECORDS: Goshen Baptist Church Records, Whiteley Township, Greene County, Pennsylvania.

1 Comment »

  1. This is wonderful! I have Lydia Baldwin as my first cousin 9 times removed.
    maryann.bumgarner@gmail.com

    See History of Washington Co., Pennsylvania, Vol. 1, Part 1, ch 19, pg 103. A group under Colonel Lochry’s command went to what is now Dearborn Co., Indiana to kill Indians and give supplies to Geo. Lewis Clark. Lochry was killed in an ambush, Guthrie was taken prisoner, to Montreal by the British, then escaped.

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