K: Robert Guttery & Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ (MNU)

Robert Guttery c1750SC-1799GA & Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ (MNU)
of Charleston County, South Carolina and Elbert County, Georgia

CONTENTS:
Origin Theories
Mistaken Identities
The Family of Robert Guttery & Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU
Historical Highlights
The Guthrie DNA Project

ORIGIN THEORIES for GFG2A BRANCH K

There are few if any facts to be found regarding the origins of Branch K.

Until the advent of genetic genealogy, the circulating theory was that Robert Guthrie/Guttery (c1750SC-1799GA) was in some way a descendant of the Guthrie family of Middlesex County, Virginia. Y-DNA testing has now debunked that theory completely. This Guthrie line is not genetically related to that family or to any of those Guthrie lineages in Guthrie Family Group 1A.

A descendant of Robert Guthrie/Guttery is a match for Guthrie Family Group 2A. This is the largest of all of the genetic Guthrie Family Groups showing evidence of multiple migrations from Scotland and Ireland beginning in the late-1600s/early-1700s through more recent American arrivals during the mid 1800s.

Descendants believe that Robert Guthrie/Guttery was born in or lived near Charleston, South Carolina. There seems to be no theory that he was himself an immigrant, which might be due to the fact that people were attempting to link his ancestry to the GFG1A line. Still, direct immigration from Scotland or Ireland should not be ruled out without further consideration.

Another theory is that Robert may descend from one of the following Jacobites who were sent to South Carolina in 1716:
1) Robert Guthrie, a laborer from Founady, Angus, Scotland, Prisoner #9 Preston, Departed Liverpool 21 April 1716 on the Wakefield and arrived 16 Aug 1716.
2) Robert Guthrie, a viola maker(?) from __, Angus, Prisoner #10 Preston (It looks like only one of the two men named Robert Guthrie was sent to SC)
3) John Guthrie, a shoemaker from Glamis, Angus arrived in South Carolina 31 Aug 1716, prisoner #62 Preston
This theory requires some digging through early South Carolina documents.
Related Links:
Jacobite Rebellion Ship Warrant
Ship Wakefield Prisoner List
IMAGE: Prison List from Preston Prison (Robert Guthrie #9 and #10)
IMAGE: Prison List from Preston Prison (James Guthrie #62)
All Images for Jacobite Prisoners

Branch K research should explore the South Carolina birth theory. Another origin option is that Robert’s line might be a subset of one of the other GFG2A Branches. William Guthrie (c1726-1778) of GFG2A Branch B emigrated from PA to SC, so it is certainly possible that others from the group made the move south.

MISTAKEN IDENTITIES

There is a 0% chance that Robert Guttery is the son of John Guthrie and Mary Shay of Middlesex County, Virginia. Remove this link to your trees. Multiple Guthrie men with Y-DNA (direct paternal line tests) have proven that this family matches the genetic profile for Guthrie Family Group 2A and not Guthrie Family Group 1A, which is where the Guthrie-Shay line belongs. There is no existing documentation in Christ Church Parish, Middlesex, Virginia indicating that John Guthrie and Mary Shay had a son by the name Robert. Being born about 1750-1752 means he was born about 5-9 years after Mary Shay died, and 20-23 years after John Guthrie died. They are not his parents.

THE FAMILY of ROBERT GUTTERY & ELIZABETH ‘BETSY’ (MNU)

ROBERT GUTTERY
Parents: Unknown
Born: c1750-1752
Location: Charleston, Charleston, South Carolina (unproven)
Marriage: Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ (MNU), probably SC about 1770 (unproven)
Occupation: Unknown
Death: 1799
Location: Elbert County, Georgia, USA
Burial: Holly Springs Baptist Church Cemetery in Bowman, Elbert, GA

ELIZABETH ‘BETSY’ (MNU)
Parents: Unknown
Born: c1756
Location: South Carolina (unproven)
Sons: Leroy ‘Lee’, William, Thomas, John
Daughters: Nelly, Elizabeth ‘Betsy’, Molley
Death: 1825
Location: Hall County, Georgia, USA
Burial: Unknown, presumably in Hall County, Georgia

CHILDREN:

LEROY ‘LEE’ GUTTERY
c1771 – 1847GA

The use of the name Leroy is found in several descendant lines, so it may be a potential clue as to a name for Robert or Betsy’s father or grandfather.

Lee’s birth location is unknown. His birth date range is estimated from census records. He is listed as 45 or older in 1820, establishing his DOB as before 1776. In 1830, he is in the 50-59 category, so his DOB would be between 1771-1780. In 1840, he is 60-69, again placing his DOB between 1771-1780. The narrowed estimate for all census years is 1771-1776.

Listed as Leroy Guttery, he was on the Franklin County, Georgia Tax Lists of 1800 and 1801. His household was enumerated in Capt. Huffington’s District of Hall County, Georgia in 1820, and again in Hall County, Georgia in 1830 and 1840. He won lot 189-7 in the Georgia Land Lottery in 1821. He was a slave owner, who by 1840 owned 11 slaves.

Lee married Letty Rylee, the daughter of James & Elizabeth Rylee/Riley. Rev James Rylee founded the Yellow Creek Baptist Church of Hall County, Georgia. Letty’s sister also married in to the Guthrie/Guttery family.

Lee and Letty had 9 children, only the youngest of which was a boy. Rhoda, Margaret, Nancy, Ann, Charlotte, Letty, Mary ‘Polly’, Reuben, and one unidentified girl.

Children: 9
Sons: Reuben
Daughters: Rhoda, Margaret, Nancy, Ann, Charlotte, Letty, Mary ‘Polly’, and one unidentified.

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder Participants: Yes

NELLY GUTTERY
c1777-UNKNOWN

Nelly is usually a nickname for Eleanor or Helen. Unknown if that is the case here. The DOB range is an estimate based on Nelly being at least 15-20 by 1797 when her father wrote his will and indicated her name was Nelly Reaves.

WILLIAM GUTTERY
1778GA-1825AL

On the 1880 census, two of William’s children, Catherine and Isham, list their father’s birthplace as Georgia. An alternate location found online but requiring documentation is South Carolina.

William Guttery married Hannah Johnson on 26 Jun 1798 in Elbert County, Georgia. He sold his Elbert County property partly to his mother, Elizabeth, in 1799 when he moved briefly to Hall County, Georgia, and then by 1806 to Lincoln County, Tennessee. In 1817, William and his family moved to Walker County, Alabama.

Children: 6
Sons: Robert Malone, Johnson, John G, Isham
Daughters: Catherine ‘Kitty’, Hettie

Y-DNA Project Participants: Yes
Family Finder Participants: Yes

THOMAS GUTTERY/GUTHRIE
1780 – After 1820GA

Thomas was born about 1780, or a census-based estimated range of 1776-1794. Thomas signed for his inheritance of $1 in Elbert County, GA on 7 Feb 1801, was a resident of Franklin County, GA in 1803 when he was listed on a Tax List, and living in Capt Huffington’s District, Hall County, GA in 1820. The only other person in the household is a woman of 45+, who might have been his mother. No other details on this Thomas Guttery. Some trees appear to confuse this man with cousin Thomas Guthrie, son of John Guthrie/Guttery & Mary ‘Polly’ Rylee, who married Elizabeth Cape in Hall County, GA in 1827.

Children: Unknown

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder Participants: No

JOHN GUTTERY/GUTHRIE
1781GA-1869AL

The Mortality Index lists his age at his death as 94 (DOB 1775), and birth location as Virginia. The 1880 Census Records of his children list his birth location as Georgia (Morgan) or Virginia (Jemima). The 1820 census lists him as 26-44 = DOB 1776-1794. The 1830 census lists him in the 40-49 category = 1781-1790. The 1840 census places him in the 50-59 category = 1781-1790. The 1850 census specifically lists him as 69 = DOB 1781. In 1860 he is listed as 80 = 1780. So, his most likely DOB is either 1780-1781.

John Guttery married Mary ‘Polly’ Rylee, the daughter of James & Elizabeth Rylee/Riley. The marriage most likely occurred in Georgia prior to 1798 when their eldest known child was born. The Rylee family lived in Hall County, Georgia. John and Mary were parents to 15 children, of whom 10 have been identified. The others, all females, may have died in infancy. Children: Elizabeth, Thomas, Jemima, Morgan, Rhoda, Leroy, Sarah N, John Barney, Calvin, and James.

John Guttery was listed in Franklin County, GA in 1819 on the Tax List. Hall County had been formed from part of Franklin & Jackson Counties, and Cherokee Lands the previous year. The family was in Hall County, GA for the 1820 census, but by 1830 had moved to Walker County, GA.

John’s wife, Polly, died sometime between 1836-1830. He is listed without a wife in the 1840 census, but appears to have remarried by 1860 to an Elizabeth who was born in SC. Elizabeth died sometime between 1850-1860.

Hancock County AL was formed from Walker County AL in 1850. The Northern District of Hancock County, where this Guttery family was living, was changed to Winston County, AL. John died there in November of 1869.

There are several descendants of John & Polly participating in the Family Finder (Autosomal) DNA Project. We also have 2 Guthrie men who are in the Y-DNA Project, but have produced genetic mismatches. One whose closest genetic matches are almost exclusively with those of the Barnett surname very likely resulted from an adoption or paternal event sometime between the birth of this man, John Guttery c1780/1 and the birth of his grandson, Leroy Thomas Guthrie in 1856. Other autosomal DNA testers who descend from Leroy Thomas Guthrie also match our Y-DNA participant’s autosomal DNA, so it seems likely that the genetic mismatch did not happen any further down the line for this particular participant. The Barnett surname is found everywhere in colonial America, so a look at the Barnett DNA Project has at least shown that the descendants of the Barnett line associated with GFG2A’s Branch B PA/SC line is not genetically the same lineage. The fact that some documentation claims John Guthrie was born in Virginia may be a sign that he was adopted into this family.

Children: 15
Sons: Thomas, Morgan, Leroy, John Barney, Calvin, James
Daughters: Elizabeth, Jemima, Rhoda Ann, Sarah N, 5 Unidentified.

Y-DNA Project Participants: Yes (See Subgroup GFG2E)
Family Finder Participants: Yes

ELIZABETH ‘BETSY’ GUTTERY
c1782GA-c1850GA

According to the 1850 census, Betsy was born in South Carolina, but by this time, the family was already located in Wilkes County, GA. The mortality index indicates that Georgia was her birth state.

Betsy married Daniel Maddox sometime before 1797 when son Levi Maddox was born in Georgia.

This couple witnessed the last will and testament of Betsy’s father, Robert Guttery.

Betsy and Daniel had at least 10 children. Online trees are a bit of a mix and match listing children. Several descendants of this couple are in the Family Finder DNA project.

Betsy died about 1850 in Putnam County, Georgia and Daniel about 1860.

Children: 10
Maddox Sons: Levi, Robert G, Dudley Jones, Daniel C, 2 Unidentified
Maddox Daughters: Leah, 3 Unidentified

Family Finder Participants: Yes

MOLLEY GUTTERY
1787GA-UNKNOWN

Molley was born about 1787 in Georgia. She married James Young on 5 Feb 1825 in Hall County, Georgia. No further details.

Children: Unknown

Family Finder Participants: No

HISTORICAL HIGHLIGHTS

c1750-1752: BIRTH of ROBERT GUTTERY
This branch of Guthrie Family Group 2A almost exclusively used the surname variant GUTTERY for 3-4 generations, and in some cases to the modern day.

Online trees tend to list Robert’s DOB as either 1750 or 1752. As far as I can tell, either DOB is simply an estimate. I have found no record that lists his DOB or his age during a specific year. If he was at least 16 during the American Revolutionary War (1776-1783), his DOB would be no later than 1760-1767, but his son Leroy was likely born 1771-1776. So, if Robert was at least 15-21 years of age in 1771, his DOB would be 1750-1756.

The identity of Robert’s parents is unknown. It has been suggested that he was born in South Carolina.

Guthrie Family Group 2A does have 1 branch with established ties to South Carolina. Branch B’s William Guthrie, born c1726PA, married Elizabeth Barnett. They emigrated from Pennsylvania to the Waxhaws Settlement in Lancaster, South Carolina and located on the north side of Cane Creek. This couple had their own son named Robert Guthrie who was born in PA in 1756 and died in TN in 1838. So the relationship to this couple is more likely collateral than direct.

Wilkes and Ebert Counties Georgia are directly across the Georgia-South Carolina border, so South Carolina does seem to be a natural consideration for a birth location. His genetic ties to GFG2A do not narrow the search area, but instead broaden it as GFG2A is the largest and most widely spread of all of the groups. There is nothing in the records to prove that Robert Guttery was not an immigrant from Scotland or Ireland, but he could easily come from one of the other established branches in the GFG2A tree.

c1756: BIRTH of ELIZABETH ‘BETSY’ (MNU)
A long-established theory named Robert’s wife Betsy as a Johnston likely being the daughter of William Johnston of Laurens County, South Carolina. The source of the theory seems to be the will of the said William Johnston who named a legatee Elizabeth Guttery in his will, although no relationships are stated.

Ancestry member Gwen Kodak (Username: GKODAD) sheds some light onto why Betsy is probably not a Johnston after all.

“I’ve accepted for many years that Elizabeth Johnston, daughter of William Johnston of Laurens County, married Robert Guttery of SC and Georgia, but I am beginning to question that.

Although William Johnston named a legatee Elizabeth Guttery in his will, no relationships are stated. One legatee, Larkin Shepard, does not appear to be a child of William’s at all. Larkin is on the 1800 census with no adult females in the home, so he could be a widower son-in-law.

In 1790, a William Gutry resided next door to William Johnston, and several Dalrymples, who witnessed Johnston’s will, also reside next door. This William Gutry is not the son of Robert and Betty Guttery, as he is too old, and has at least 4 children in 1790.

I suspect this William is Elizabeth Johnston’s husband, and the marital association people have accepted with Robert Guttery simply has to do with the last name appearing in the will, combined with a genealogical leap of faith. William Gutry, John Gutry and Robert Guttery are all still in the area in 1800, so this seems to be a different group of Gutterys who did not move to Georgia.

If someone has something of substance (not the full will, as I have that, and all it proves is that William Johnston had a legatee called Elizabeth Guttery, relationship unknown, husband unknown), I would love to hear from them.

Robert’s wife’s maiden name is unknown. The Elizabeth Johnston, “daughter” of William Johnston reported to be his wife was actually Elizabeth Shephard, probable granddaughter of William Johnston of Laurens SC. She married William Guttery in Caswell County NC in 1782. William Johnston of Laurens was also originally of Caswell County. Elizabeth and her siblings, children of John Shephard of Caswell County are named in William Johnston’s will.”

c1770: MARRIAGE of ROBERT GUTTERY & ELIZABETH ‘BETSY’ (MNU)
This DOM is purely an estimation based on the birth range of eldest known son Leroy Guthrie who was born 1771-1774.

1771-1776: BIRTH of SON, LEROY ‘LEE’ GUTTERY
The use of the name Leroy is found in several descendant lines, so it may be a potential clue as to a name for Robert or Betsy’s father or grandfather.

Lee and Letty had 9 children, only the youngest of which was a boy. Rhoda, Margaret, Nancy, Ann, Charlotte, Letty, Mary ‘Polly’, Reuben, and one unidentified girl. We have at least 2 participants in the Family Finder (Autosomal) DNA Project at this time, but no direct male Guthrie participants representing this couple in the Y-DNA Project at this time.

c1777-1782
BIRTH of DAUGHTER, NELLY GUTTERYNelly is usually a nickname for Eleanor or Helen. Unknown if that is the case here. The DOB range is an estimate based on Nelly being at least 15-20 by 1797 when her father wrote his will and indicated her name was Nelly Reaves.

1778: PROPERTY: WILKES COUNTY, GEORGIA
“Eager to claim land, Robert Guttery paid fees for over 900 aces in 1778.” [Source?]

1778: APPRAISER OF THE ESTATE OF ALEX MILLS
Book of Mixed Records, Wills, Administrations, and Deeds 1777-1778:

Folio 15—MILLS, ALEX, dec’d. Inventory Jan. 23, 1778. Geo. Tureman, Wm. Woods. Robt. Guthrie, Appraisers.

1778: BIRTH of SON, WILLIAM GUTTERY
On the 1880 census, two of William’s children, Catherine and Isham, list their father’s birthplace as Georgia. An alternate location found online but requiring documentation is South Carolina.

Children: Robert Malone Guttery, Johnson Guttery, John G Guttery, Catherine ‘Kitty’ Guttery, Hettie Guttery, and Isham Guttery.

William Guttery & Hannah Johnson are the direct ancestors of our Y-DNA participant representing this Branch of GFG2A. We also have a few Family Finder DNA Project members who descend from this couple. One descendant of their son Robert also has an AncestryDNA autosomal match with Ann Guthrie, this site administrator, who descends from GFG2A – Branch A.

Read more on William & Hannah (Johnson) Guttery and family.

c1780: BIRTH of SON, THOMAS GUTTERY
Thomas was born about 1780, or a census-based estimated range of 1776-1794. Thomas signed for his inheritance of $1 in Elbert County, GA on 7 Feb 1801, was a resident of Franklin County, GA in 1803 when he was listed on a Tax List, and living in Capt Huffington’s District, Hall County, GA in 1820. The only other person in the household is a woman of 45+, who might have been his mother. No other details on this Thomas Guttery. Some trees appear to confuse this man with cousin Thomas Guthrie, son of John Guthrie/Guttery & Mary ‘Polly’ Rylee, who married Elizabeth Cape in Hall County, GA in 1827. There are no descendants of this Thomas Guttery in the DNA Project.

1780-1781: BIRTH of SON, JOHN GUTTERY
The Mortality Index lists his age at his death as 94 (DOB 1775), and birth location as Virginia. The 1880 Census Records of his children list his birth location as Georgia (Morgan) or Virginia (Jemima). The 1820 census lists him as 26-44 = DOB 1776-1794. The 1830 census lists him in the 40-49 category = 1781-1790. The 1840 census places him in the 50-59 category = 1781-1790. The 1850 census specifically lists him as 69 = DOB 1781. In 1860 he is listed as 80 = 1780. So, his most likely DOB is either 1780-1781.

c1782: BIRTH of DAUGHTER, ELIZABETH ‘BETSY’ GUTTERY
According to the 1850 census, Betsy was born in South Carolina, but by this time, the family was already located in Wilkes County, GA. The mortality index indicates that Georgia was her birth state.

Betsy married Daniel Maddox sometime before 1797 when son Levi Maddox was born in Georgia.

This couple witnessed the last will and testament of Betsy’s father, Robert Guttery.

Betsy and Daniel had at least 10 children. Online trees are a bit of a mix and match listing children. Several descendants of this couple are in the Family Finder DNA project.

Betsy died about 1850 in Putnam County, Georgia and Daniel about 1860.

1785: PROPERTY: LAND GRANT
A deed July 1810 between Nathaniel Booth to Robert Booth contains notice “Contains 150 acres with the mill and plantation incl and wing part of same tract granted to ROBERT GUTHREY by his excellency, Samuel Elbert, then governor of the state.” Land grant dated 4 Feb 1785. Documented 11 Aug 1792.

1785: TAX LIST FOR WILKES COUNTY, GEORGIA
Remnant Tax Digest lists Robert Guttery, 1 poll 334 acres, Wilkes Co.

c1787: BIRTH of DAUGHTER, MOLLEY GUTTERY
Molley was born about 1787 in Georgia. She married James Young on 5 Feb 1825 in Hall County, Georgia. There are no representatives of this line in the project.

1790: FORMATION of ELBERT COUNTY, GEORGIA
Elbert County was formed from parts of Wilkes County, GA, named for Samuel Elbert, a Rev War Hero and an early Governor of GA. The Broad River forms the county’s western and southern border. Its eastern border with South Carolina is the Savannah River.

1792-1794: PROPERTY PURCHASE IN ELBERT COUNTY, GEORGIA
Robert bought land (33 acres) from Elizabeth Saylors on 29 Aug 1792. Recorded on 6 May 1794 (1. Deeds & Mortgages Book C 1793-1795, pages 99-100-101. 2. Historical Collections of Georgia D.A.R. Voll III, p.192.)

Robert sold land (100 acres for 5 pounds) to Austin Webb on 1 Oct 1792 (Deed Book A, page 103)

1794: PROPERTY SALE IN ELBERT COUNTY, GEORGIA
Robert Guttery and wife Betsy, folio 116 Elbert County, VA to Charles Boddingfied of Wilkes County 233 acres on Broad River, originally a grant to said Guttery in 1785. Historical Collections of Georgia D.A.R. Volume III, p.199.

1795: FORMER OWNERSHIP OF PROPERTY IN ELBERT COUNTY, GA
A 23 Oct 1795 document detailing the sale of land from Austin Webb, folio 44, to William Whaley, indicates it was part of the original grant in 1785 to Robert Guttery on Borad River. Historical Collections of the Georgia D.A.R. Volume III

1796: CHURCH MEMBERSHIP
Holly Springs Baptist Church lists members Wm., Guttery, Elizabeth Guttery and Hannah Guttery on 6 Feb 1796 (History of Hart County (GA) pages 380-381, 384-385, Holy Springs Baptist Church, by J.S. Christian, 1900)

1797: WILL of ROBERT GUTTERY WRITTEN
The will of Robert Guttery was written on 20 April 1797 using the spelling GUTHREE. It was witnessed by son-in-law, Daniel Maddox, and daughter, Betsy Maddox. Recorded on 12 Sep 1799 (Will Book B, page 92) Will of Robert Guthree Elbert County, GA April 12, 1797
In the Name of God Amen:
I, Robert Guthree, of the state of Georgia and county of Elbert, bein sorely afflicted, but of perfect mind and memory, thanks be given unto God. Calling to mind the mortality of my body and knowing that it is appointed for all men once to die, do make and ordain in this my last will and testament. That is to say principally and first of all, i give and reccomend my soul into the hands of Almighty God that gave it and my body I reccomend to the Earth to be buried in decent Christian burial at the discretion of executors, nothing doubting but I shall receive the same again at the general Resurrection by the Mighty Power of God. And as touching such worldly estate where with it hath pleased God to bless me with.
I give devise and dispose of the same in the following manner and form:
First I give and bequeath to my dearly beloved wife, Betty, all my estate lands, mill, Negro man, Mark, stock of every kind and household furniture, as long as she shall live and to be at her disposal at her death. Whom I constitute my executrix and James Ryley executor of this my last will and testament. Also I give and leave to every one of my children one dollar each to William, Thomas, Leroy, Molly, Betsy and John and Nelly Reives to be raised out of my estate at my death and paid to each of them, rattifying and confirming this and no other to be my last will and testament.
In witness whereof, I have unto set my hand and seal this twelfth day of April one thousand seven hundred and ninety seven.
Robert Guthree

Signed sealed and published in presence of us: J.W. Gowen, Daniel Maddox, Betsy Maddox, Recorded this will of Robert Guthree the 12th day Sept. 1799. W. Higinbotham, C.O.E.C. Reorded in Ordinary’s Record, 1791-1803 section B. Page 72. Ordinary’s Office, Elberten, Elbert County, GA

1799: DEATH of ROBERT GUTTERY
No specific date in 1799 has been found for Robert’s death. His will was recorded on 12 Sep 1799, so it would have been prior to that date.

Robert Guttery is said to be buried at Holly Springs Baptist Church Cemetery in Elbert County, Georgia.

“(Floyd A Guthrie) visited the Holly Springs Baptist Church which is located on the Elbert and Hart County line, he saw several old unmarked graves to the left of the church. He also was told that, about 500 yards across the road and in a field and on the edge next to the woods, there had been at one time several unmarked graves that have been destroyed and that may be where Robert lies today.” [Source: Rootsweb]

1799: WILL of ROBERT GUTTERY RECORDED
Robert Guttery’s Last Will and Testament was recorded in the Ordinary’s Record 1791-1803 Section B, Page 72, Elbert County, Georgia on 12 Sep 1799. Betsy Guttery and James Ryley were named as executors.

1799: INVENTORY of ROBERT GUTTERY RECORDED
The inventory of Robert Guttery’s estate was valued at $1015.29. Recorded 17 April 1799. (Wills, Letters, Returns, Inventory, Appraisments & Sales Book B., pages 58-59)

1801: ROBERT GUTTERY ESTATE SETTLEMENT
William Gutry signed for his inhertage of $1.00 on 7 Feb 1801; Leroy Gutry signed for his $1.00 on 7 Feb; 7 Feb Thomas Gutry signed for his $1.00; 7 Feb 1801 Daniel Mattoch signed for $1.00; 7 Feb 1801 John Gutry signed for his $1.00. Recorded 30 April 1801. (Wills, Letters, Returns, Inventories, Appraisements & Sales 1791-1803, Books A-B-C, pages 57-58)

1801: PROPERTY SALE
Elizabeth Gutry of the County of Franklin on 23 Feb 1801 sold to William Magee of Elbert Co. for $300.00, 100 acres. Recorded on 13 April 1801 (Deeds & Mortgages Book G, page 61)

Elizabeth Guttrey of Franklin Co., sold William Magee of Elbert Co. for $100.00, 50 acres. Recorded on 13 April 1801 (Deeds & Mortgages, Book G, pages 61-62)

Elizabeth Guttrey of Franklin Co., sold Charles Hendry of Elbert Co., for $200.00, 200 acres. Recorded 20 Feb 1811 (Deed Book N, page 124)

1811: PROPERTY PURCHASE
William Guttrey and Hannah sold to Elizabeth Guttrey, 50 acres of land for $100.00. Recorded 19 July 1799 (Deeds & Mortgages Book F, pages 40-41)

1821: LAND LOTTERY
Elizabeth Guttery won a land lottery in Monroe Co., Ga.

Name County Military District Lot Section Drew Land
Guthry, William Liberty Bradwells    30 9    Henry
Guttery, Elizabeth (Wid.) Hall Buffington 32 6 Monroe
Guttery, Leroy Hall    Buffington 189 7 Houston
Guthry, William Liberty Bradwells 30 9 Henry
Guttery, Elizabeth (Wid) Hall Buffington 32 6 Monroe
Guttery, Leroy Hall Buffington 189 7 Houston
Guttery, Thomas Hall    Buffingtons 95 14 Dooly

Map of Land Lottery Lots in Monroe County

LOTTERY DETAILS ACT OF MAY 15, 1821.RECAP OF ACT OF MAY 15, 1821 Authority: Act of May 15, 1821Year of Drawing: 1821CountiesDooly: 16 districts (1-16) Fayette: 4 districts ( 6,7,9,14) Henry: 18 districts (1-18) Houston: 16 districts (1-16) Monroe: 15 districts (1-15) Size of Land LotsDooly: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square) Fayette: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square) Henry: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square) Houston: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square) Monroe: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square) Grant Fee$19.00 per Land Lot Persons Entitled to DrawBachelor, 18 years or older, 3 year residence in Georgia, 3 year citizen United States – 1 draw Married man with wife and/or minor son under 18 and/or unmarried daughter, 3 year residence in Georgia, 3 year citizen United States – 2 draws Widow, 3 year residence in Georgia – 1 draw Family of minor orphans, father dead, 3 year residence in Georgia – 1 draw Family (3 or more) of minor orphans, father and mother dead – 2 draws Family (one or two) of minor orphans, father and mother dead – 1 draw Widow, husband killed or died in Revolutionary War, War of 1812 or Indian Wars 3 year residence in Georgia – 2 draws Orphan, father killed or died in Revolutionary War, War of 1812 or Indian Wars – 2 draws

ACT OF MAY 15, 1821.
RECAP OF ACT OF MAY 15, 1821
Authority: Act of May 15, 1821
Year of Drawing: 1821
Counties
Dooly: 16 districts (1-16)
Fayette: 4 districts ( 6,7,9,14)
Henry: 18 districts (1-18)
Houston: 16 districts (1-16)
Monroe: 15 districts (1-15)
Size of Land Lots
Dooly: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square)
Fayette: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square)
Henry: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square)
Houston: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square)
Monroe: 202 ½ acres (2970 feet square)
Grant Fee
$19.00 per Land Lot
Persons Entitled to Draw
Bachelor, 18 years or older, 3 year residence in Georgia, 3 year citizen United States – 1 draw
Married man with wife and/or minor son under 18 and/or unmarried daughter, 3 year residence in Georgia, 3 year citizen United States – 2 draws
Widow, 3 year residence in Georgia – 1 draw
Family of minor orphans, father dead, 3 year residence in Georgia – 1 draw
Family (3 or more) of minor orphans, father and mother dead – 2 draws
Family (one or two) of minor orphans, father and mother dead – 1 draw
Widow, husband killed or died in Revolutionary War, War of 1812 or Indian Wars 3 year residence in Georgia – 2 draws
Orphan, father killed or died in Revolutionary War, War of 1812 or Indian Wars – 2 draws
Child or family of children of a convict, 3 year residence in Georgia – 1 draw
Persons Excluded
Any fortunate drawer in any previous Land Lottery.

1825: DEATH of ELIZABETH ‘BESTY’ GUTTERY
Betsy is presumed to have died in early 1825 prior to the 7th of March when her will was filed in Hall County, Georgia. Her burial location is unknown.

1825: WILL of ELIZABETH GUTTERY / ESTATE ADMINISTRATION FILED Betsy’s Last Will and Testament was filed in Hall County, Georgia on 7 Mar 1825.

Leroy Guttery and John Williams gave bond as executors and administrators of Elizabeth Guttery’s estate.Georgia, Hall CountyKnow all men by these presents that we, Leroy Guttery and John Williams, are held and firmly bound unto their honours successors in office in the last and full sum of five thousand dollars, for the payment of which sum to the said judges and their successors in office we bind ourselves our heirs Executors and Administrators lawlty and severally firmly by these presents. Sealed with our seals and dated this 7th day of March, 1825.The condition of the above obligation is such that if the above bound Leroy Guttery administrator of the goods, chattels and credits of Elizabeth Guttery deceased do make a true and perfect Inventory of all and singular the goods chattels & credits of the said deceased which have or shall come to the hand possession or knowledge of said Leroy Guttery or into the hands or possession of any other person or persons for him and the same so made do exhibit into the said court of Ordinary when he shall be thereto required and such goods chattels and credits do well and truly administer recording to law, and do make a last and true account of his actings and doings thereon when required by the said court of Ordinary for the county. And all the rest of the goods chattels and credits which shall be found remaining upon the account of said court, shall deliver and pay to such person respectively as are intitled to the same law. And if it shall here after appear that any last will and testament was made by said deceased and the same be proved before the court and the Executors obtain a certificate of the probate thereof and the said Leroy Guttery administrator do in such case if required render and deliver up his Letters of Administration then this obligation to be void else remain in full force and vertue in Law.Signed, sealed and delivered in presence of Stephen Reed, Clk.Leroy Guttery

Georgia, Hall County
Know all men by these presents that we, Leroy Guttery and John Williams, are held and firmly bound unto their honours successors in office in the last and full sum of five thousand dollars, for the payment of which sum to the said judges and their successors in office we bind ourselves our heirs Executors and Administrators lawlty and severally firmly by these presents. Sealed with our seals and dated this 7th day of March, 1825.
The condition of the above obligation is such that if the above bound Leroy Guttery administrator of the goods, chattels and credits of Elizabeth Guttery deceased do make a true and perfect Inventory of all and singular the goods chattels & credits of the said deceased which have or shall come to the hand possession or knowledge of said Leroy Guttery or into the hands or possession of any other person or persons for him and the same so made do exhibit into the said court of Ordinary when he shall be thereto required and such goods chattels and credits do well and truly administer recording to law, and do make a last and true account of his actings and doings thereon when required by the said court of Ordinary for the county. And all the rest of the goods chattels and credits which shall be found remaining upon the account of said court, shall deliver and pay to such person respectively as are intitled to the same law. And if it shall here after appear that any last will and testament was made by said deceased and the same be proved before the court and the Executors obtain a certificate of the probate thereof and the said Leroy Guttery administrator do in such case if required render and deliver up his Letters of Administration then this obligation to be void else remain in full force and vertue in Law.
Signed, sealed and delivered in presence of Stephen Reed, Clk.
Leroy Guttery, John Williams

1831: ADMINISTRATION of ESTATE of ELIZABETH GUTHERY (GUTTERY)
Recorded in Book Misc. A, Page 44.
Georgia ) Inventory of the appraisement of the property
Hall County) of Elizabeth Guthery, late of said county, Dec. by Nehemiah Garrison, Robert Wilson & Ramond Sanford on oath this 27th day Dec. 1831.

1 Ishmael a man about 21 yrs. old $500.00
2 Aston 19 500.00
3 Leah a woman 15 375.00
4 Halah a girl 2 150.00
5 Betty 5 200.00
6 Rose a woman 50 200.00
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$1925.00

1832: ADMINISTRATION of ESTATE OF ELIZABETH GUTHRIE (GUTTERY)
I do certify that Nehemiah Garrison, Robert Wilson & Raymond Sanford were sworn by me to the above appraisement this 27th day of Dec. 1831
B.R. Mcutchin, J.P.

Geo Hampe, C.C.O.
Recorded 13, Feb., 1832 Recorded in Book Misc. B. Page 43.

Ordinary Court, March Term, 1832.
Ordered by the Court Leroy Guthrie, Admr. of the Estate of Elizabeth Guthrie have leave to sell the negroes belonging to said Estate 5th March, 1832

Geo. Hampe, C.C.O. Georgia, Hall CountyKnow all men by these presents that we, Leroy Guttery and John Williams, are held and firmly bound unto their honours successors in office in the last and full sum of five thousand dollars, for the payment of which sum to the said judges and their successors in office we bind ourselves our heirs Executors and Administrators lawlty and severally firmly by these presents. Sealed with our seals and dated this 7th day of March, 1825.The condition of the above obligation is such that if the above bound Leroy Guttery administrator of the goods, chattels and credits of Elizabeth Guttery deceased do make a true and perfect Inventory of all and singular the goods chattels & credits of the said deceased which have or shall come to the hand possession or knowledge of said Leroy Guttery or into the hands or possession of any other person or persons for him and the same so made do exhibit into the said court of Ordinary when he shall be thereto required and such goods chattels and credits do well and truly administer recording to law, and do make a last and true account of his actings and doings thereon when required by the said court of Ordinary for the county. And all the rest of the goods chattels and credits which shall be found remaining upon the account of said court, shall deliver and pay to such person respectively as are intitled to the same law. And if it shall here after appear that any last will and testament was made by said deceased and the same be proved before the court and the Executors obtain a certificate of the probate thereof and the said Leroy Guttery administrator do in such case if required render and deliver up his Letters of Administration then this obligation to be void else remain in full force and vertue in Law.Signed, sealed and delivered in presence of Stephen Reed, Clk.Leroy GutteryJohn Williams

1834: ESTATE of ELIZABETH GUTTERY SETTLED
Betsy’s estate was settled on 4 Jun 1834 in Hall County, Georgia.

THEIR STORY

Dombart’s notes on the Guttery family of Walker County, Alabama suggest that Robert Guttery may have come from an old Charleston, South Carolina family. Finding other evidence in SC that can be tied to this specific man remains undetermined.

South Carolina is a natural consideration as an origin location for Robert Guttery and his family. Elbert County, Georgia, where he is known to have lived and died, is directly across the state border from South Carolina. Initial documentation shows Robert in Wilkes County, Georgia, and later in Elbert County, Georgia.

“In the northeast Georgia Piedmont, between the Savannah and Broad rivers, lies Elbert County. The area was originally settled before the American Revolution (1775-83) by pioneers filtering into the region from Virginia and the Carolinas. The legal occupation of the lands that would later become Elbert County took place on June 1, 1773, when Georgia’s colonial governor, James Wright, negotiated a land cession with local Creek and Cherokee leaders. The cession, known as the New Purchase, contained about 2 million acres north of Augusta and was originally designated as Wilkes County.” [Georgia Encyclopedia]

In the northeast Georgia Piedmont, between the Savannah and Broad rivers, lies Elbert County. The area was originally settled before the American Revolution (1775-83) by pioneers filtering into the region from Virginia and the Carolinas. The legal occupation of the lands that would later become Elbert County took place on June 1, 1773, when Georgia’s colonial governor, James Wright, negotiated a land cession with local Creek and Cherokee leaders. The cession, known as the New Purchase, contained about 2 million acres north of Augusta and was originally designated as Wilkes County.

During the American Revolution Wilkes County became the scene of severe partisan fighting among Tories, patriots, and Indians.

The formation of Elbert County, Georgia officially occurred on 10 Dec 1790 being taken part of Wilkes County, Georgia.

“The fork of the Broad and Savannah Rivers was the site of Fort James, built in the Revolutionary War to protect settlers in the nearby community of Dartmouth.” . . . “The site is now covered by the waters of the Clark Hill Reservoir.” [Elbert County]

RESOURCES:

History of Walker County: Its Towns and Its People, by John Martin Dombart. Thornton, Ark,: Caye Pub.Co., c1937. [Online at Ancestry.com]

Historical Southern Families, Volume 4, by Mrs John Bennett Boddie. Pacific Coast Publishers, 1960. page 77: ‘Guttery of Georgia and Alabama’. [Online at Ancestry.com]

Elbert County, Georgia Genealogy Resources [Online Records & Other Resources]

THE GUTHRIE DNA PROJECT

Guthrie Family Group: GFG2A
Group Designation: Branch A – (Undetermined Cluster)

Haplogroup: R-M269
Confirmed Haplogroup: R-Z30233

Note: Many of the lineages below continue to use the GUTTERY spelling variation. Consider GUTHRIE/GUTTERY exchangeable for the purposes of this list.

YDNA Matches: 2
Kit 502511 (+FF)
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guthrie/Hannah Johnson > Isham GuthrieRebecca Pike > Isham Prince Guthrie/Savannah Frances Rhoda Clark (GGP) +more

Kit 870953
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guthrie/Hannah Johnson > John Guthrie/Mary Rutledge > Joseph G Guthrie/Mary Jane Stacks (GGP) +more

YDNA Mismatches:
See Subgroups GFG2E, GFG2F, and GFG2G.

Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits: 20

Kit 145134
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guthrie/Hannah Johnson > Johnson Guthrie/Mary Wilson > Robert Franklin Guthrie/Gracie Frances Nesmith > William McKinley Guthrie/Mary Elizabeth Sherrill (GGP) +more

Kit 180856 Kathy Faulkner
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guthrie/Hannah Johnson > Robert Malone Guthrie/Sarah Ann Williams > Catherine Guthrie/Andrew Jackson Boshell > No Further Lineage Provided

Kit 267695 Johnny Smith
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > Leroy Guthrie/Letty Rylee > Nancy Guthrie/William Goddard > No Further Lineage Provided

Kit 296490
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guthrie/Hannah Johnson > John Guthrie/Mary Rutledge > Joseph G Guthrie/Mary Jane Stacks (GGP) +more > Andrew J Guthrie/Lula Isabell Pike (GGP) +more

Kit 298996
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > Elizabeth Guthrie/Daniel Harrison Maddox > Levi Maddox/Elizabeth Jeffries Hicks > Daniel Hicks Maddox/Selety Bowlan > Margaret Jane Maddox/Patrick Peter Toombs > Stacia Toombs/Frank Young > Johnnie Myrle Young/Angus Edward Martin (GGP)

Kit 313149
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betty’ MNU > Leroy Guthrie/Letty Rylee > Ann Guthrie/Jonathan Williams > Nehemiah Williams/Mary Ann Coker > Hezekiah William Williams/Narcissus Smotherman (GGP)

Kit 319668
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > Elizabeth Guthrie/Daniel Harrison Maddox > Levi Maddox/Elizabeth Jeffries Hicks > Daniel Hicks Maddox/Selety Bowlan > Margaret Jane Maddox/Patrick Peter Toombs (GGP)

Kit 328691
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guthrie/Hannah Johnson > Johnson Guthrie/Mary Wilson > Mary Jane Guthrie/Thomas J Wilson > Martha Caroline Wilson/John Albert Pond Jr (GGP)

Kit 335428
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betty’ MNU > Leroy Guthrie/Letty Rylee > Ann Guthrie/Jonathan Williams > Nehemiah Williams/Mary Ann Coker (GGP)

Kit 384880
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betty’ MNU > Leroy Guthrie/Letty Rylee > Ann Guthrie/Jonathan Williams > Nehemiah Williams/Mary Ann Coker > Hezekiah William Williams/Narcissus Smotherman (GGP)

Kit 417309
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betty’ MNU > Leroy Guthrie/Letty Rylee > Ann Guthrie/Jonathan Williams > Susan Arrena Williams/George P King > Allen Dusky King/Ann Dowling Oates (GGP)

Kit B45118
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guthrie/Hannah Johnson > Robert Guttery/Sarah Ann Williams > Isham Prince Guttery/Nancy J Romine > Robert Elbert Guthrie/Theadora Smith (GGP) +more

Kit B236599
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guttery/Hannah Johnson > Robert Malone Guttery/Sarah Ann Williams > William Guttery/Elizabeth Williams > John Mason Guttery/Elizabeth J Morris > Margaret Elizabeth Guttery/William H Beasley Jr (GGP)

Kit B299547
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guttery/Hannah Johnson > Hetty Guttery/Henry Townley > Richmond Townley/Mary Francis Scott (GGP) // ALSO: Ungrouped/Ayrshire – David Guthrie/Mary Campbell > Charles Guthrie > Charles Guthrie/Stewart McLean > Charles Guthrie/Elizabeth Herbertson (GGP)

Kit B432966
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guthrie/Hannah Johnson > John Guthrie/Mary Rutledge > Joseph G Guthrie/Mary Jane Stacks > Andrew J Guthrie/Lula Isabell Pike (GGP)

Kit B521091
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guthrie/Hannah Johnson > John Guthrie/Mary Rutledge > Martin Van Buren Guthrie/Mary Elizabeth Madison > George Washington Guthrie/Nancy Emiline Pike (GGP) +more

Kit B573752
GFG2A – BRANCH K – FAMILY FINDER KIT with GUTHRIE ANCESTRY – Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guttery/Hannah Johnson > Robert Malone Guttery/Sarah Ann Williams > John Kenneth Guthrie/Mary Ann Johnson > James Bacus Guthrie/Margaret Jane Townley (GGP) +more

Kit B952321
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth MNU > William Guthrie/Hannah Johnson > Robert Malone Guthrie/ Sarah Ann Williams > Elizabeth Guthrie/James Milton baker > Jane Baker/John Edward Allen > Evelyn Dean Allen/Robert S Shanklin (GGP)

Kit MK58329
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > William Guthrie/Hannah Johnson > Johnson Guthrie/Mary Wilson > Robert Franklin Guthrie/Gracie Frances Nesmith > Luticia Francis Guthrie/John Wallace Jeffreys (GGP)

Kit N58410
Robert Guthrie/Elizabeth ‘Betsy’ MNU > Elizabeth Guthrie/Daniel Harrison Maddox > Dudley Jones Maddox/Rutha Dobbs > Martha Ann Maddox/Franklin Bartow Hall (GGP)

Findings:

Robert Guttery is credited with 4 sons:
Leroy ‘Lee’, William, Thomas, and John
William and John are the only two sons represented by direct male descendants in the Y-DNA Project.

Descendants of William Guthrie participating in YDNA testing match Guthrie Family Group 2A (GFG2A).

Descendants of John Guthrie participating in YDNA testing are all genetic mismatches for GFG2A or any GFG. This line has been labelled as GFG2E. However there are also genetic mismatches in subsequent generations, creating subgroups GFG2F and GFG2G. Because of these paternal line mismatches at varying points in the branch, autosomal matches may or may not be found.

Genetic pattern markers show that Robert’s descendant has a mutation found in all of the Branch C participants. This might indicate that Robert has a more recent connection with the Branch C line than to the other GFG2A branches. However, I have not added Branch K into a cluster with Branch C because the findings are inconclusive. We need more YDNA data from Branch K.