Sub-Groups of GFG2

Sub-Groups are formed when individual lineages have ties to a specific Guthrie Family Group, but the Y-DNA results in a genetic mismatch. These may be the result of adoptions, false paternity, feudal law or other causal events.

Guthrie Family Group 2B

According to the theory of ‘American Guthrie and Allied Families’ author, Rev. Laurence R. Guthrie, the family of Thomas Guthrie Sr. 1744-1837 & Mildred Howell belongs to GFG2A-Branch B. Thomas is supposed to be one of the sons of Robert Guthrie and his Darlington wife. However, two close cousins who descend from Thomas & Mildred’s eldest son, Thomas Guthrie, are genetic mismatched to the rest of GFG2A. It could be that the Causal Event is a much closer common ancestor to them, which would mean the rest of the Guthrie-Howell line should match its original group. It could also be that this mismatch is a sign common to the remainder of the line. We need at least 1 – 2 more Guthrie-Howell descendants to discover the truth.

Y-DNA Kits:
178769
200505

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Kits:
B581767

Guthrie Family Group 2C

Descendants of Robert Guthrie 1752PA-1815OH & Elizabeth Jane Caldwell have a similar story. Robert is supposed to be one of the sons of GFG2A – Branch I’s James Guthrie and his Bissell wife. Another theory with little substance behind it other than a regional connection in Pennsylvania. We have only one Y-DNA participant from this lineage. While it might be easy to conclude he is a solitary genetic mismatch, his autosomal DNA matches to people who descend from the Guthrie-Caldwell line are significant. It appears that the genetic mismatch likely affects the entire Guthrie-Caldwell line. Still, we need at least 1 more descendant to prove that theory.

Y-DNA Kits:
320661 (+FF)

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Kits:
105057
222038
263188
287172
216257
458935
B534662
23890
890780
893003
B77338
B98825

Guthrie Family Group 2D

This is a genetic mismatch involving a Guthrie-Gilkeson descendant. Another participant with connections to an earlier generation matches GFG2A.

Y-DNA Kits:
351378
342840
405671

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Kits:
405671

Guthrie Family Group 2E

Project participants who descend from two different sons of John Guthrie 1781-1869 & Mary ‘Polly’ Rylee are genetic mismatches to parent group GFG2A-Branch K. They do match each other, which suggests that John himself was probably the original GFG2E mismatch. No documentation of an adoption has been found, but that is one potential reason, along with false paternity, for such a mismatch.

Y-DNA Kits:
341457
773572

Family Finder/Autosomal DNA Kits:
B565791
266950
293548
181566
72295
279772
497291
415750
B341355
422177
553065
380909
355512
773573

Guthrie Family Group 2F

This participant’s line is also historically traceable back to John Guthrie 1781-1869 & Mary ‘Polly’ Rylee. It does not match the original YDNA of GFG2A nor the GFG2E genetic profile. This shows two genetic mismatches within the same family line. In this case, the paper trail leads from Branch K to GFG2E to GFG2F. The genetic mismatch between GFG2E and GFG2F could have occurred any time after the generation of John Barney Guthrie (1816-1868).

Y-DNA Kits:
688473 (+FF)

Guthrie Family Group 2G

Branch K is just full of genetic surprises. Once again, we start with the son of Robert & Betsy Guttery/Guthrie of SC and GA. Their son John Guthrie 1781-1869 & Mary ‘Polly’ Rylee have another descendant with a genetic mismatch. The participant does not match John Guthrie’s GFG2E profile, nor does he match GFG2F. This genetic mismatch could have occurred with the birth of their son Leroy ‘Lee’ Guthrie or in any subsequent generation.

Y-DNA Kits:
355715

Guthrie Family Group 2H

This is a subset of GFG2A – Branch H connected to the family of Haley Guthrie and Frances ‘Fanny’ Allen. Documentation claims Fanny’s son Andrew Jackson Guthrie’s father is her husband Haley Guthrie, but he died about 10 years prior to Andrew Jackson Guthrie’s birth. He likely assumed the surname Guthrie because Fanny was the Widow Guthrie at the time. The Y-DNA of a direct male descendant of Andrew Jackson Guthrie does not match that of any Guthrie Family Group, originating from the G-M201 haplogroup. Surname matches at the Y37 level are primarily to men of the BOOHER surname. No matches at the Y67 level.

Y-DNA Kits:
865820

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