C: Shadrick Guthry & Malinda Badley / Ruah Ann Roberts

ORIGIN THEORIES for GFG5 BRANCH C

Shadrick Guthry 1772SC-1850MS & Malinda Badley / Ruah Ann Roberts
of South Carolina, Kentucky & Mississippi

The name Shadrach is not that uncommon in the Colonial South. There are quite a few men by some variation of that given name in my research tree. Six of them also have the Guthrie surname. These men primarily originate with two Guthrie lineages:

  1. Shadrick Guthry 1772SC-1850MS & Malinda Badley/Ruah Ann Roberts
  2. Shadrack Guthrie 1785GA-1826 & Florence Chambers

Branch C’s Shadrick Guthry has no confirmed set of parents, but the YDNA of his descendants matches GFG5.

The second Shadrack Guthrie is the son of John Guthrie & Anna Smith, and therefore the grandson of GFG5 Branch A’s William Guthrie & Eleanor Abbott.

The other men named Shadrach Guthrie in my research tree are known descendants of one of these two lines… with one exception. The fact that the name is exclusively connected to GFG5 lineages may be a huge clue to the Guthrie families associated with the Thickety Creek area of Spartanburg, South Carolina. They too mention a Shadrach Guthrie in property records associated with the other Guthries in that area. I theorize that he may be this Shadrick Guthry.

On 9 September 1754, two families had gathered to celebrate a wedding at Buffalo Creek. Thickety Creek was in close proximity. A Shawnee attack occurred at the house of John Gutrey on the North Side of Broad River on Buffalo Creek 16 persons were killed and 10 not found. Bodies and livestock were piled up and burned. John Guthrie died in 1754, so he is not the father of Frederick, Matthew, and presumably Shadrach of Thickety Creek, but it is likely that he was associated with the family.

We need Y-DNA from a Guthrie male who descends from the Thickety Creek Guthries. The family of Frederick Guthrie 1763-1848 & Mary Louallen has the best documentation.

THE GUTHRIE DNA PROJECT

Guthrie Family Group: GFG5
Group Designation: Branch C – (The Guthries of South Carolina)

Haplogroup: R-M269
Confirmed Haplogroup: R-M269


Y-DNA Matches: 2
Kit 129125
Shadrick Guthry/Ruah Ann Roberts > James Henry Guthrie/Martha Wilson > Gary Thomas Guthrie/Elma Virginia Pike (GGP) +more

Kit 905025
Shadrick Guthry/Malinda Badley > Orin Guthrie/Elizabeth Davis > William Davis Guthrie/Martha Ann Elizabeth Culpepper > William Francis Guthrie/Martha Elizabeth Kate Edgar (GGP) +more


Family Finder / Autosomal DNA Kits: 1
Kit 898982
Shadrick Guthry/Malinda Badley > William Edward Guthrie/Etheldra Ruth Beasley > Jeremiah Pearson Guthrie/Joe Ann Sands (GGP) +more


Findings:
Kit 129125 has tested at the Y67 marker level and matches Guthrie Family Group 5. He descends from Shadrick Guthry and his 2nd wife, Ruah Ann Roberts. There are 2 mutations compared to Group Mode DNA that are unique to himself. DYS456=15 (instead of 16) and DYS413a=21 (instead of 23).

Kit 905025 is now a Y67 marker test after a recent upgrade also matching GFG5. The participant is a descendant of Shadrick Guthry via his 1st wife Malinda Badley. He has 2 mutations compared to Group Mode DNA. CDYi = 37 instead of 36. This variance is a fast moving marker shared by Kit 20261 – GFG5 – Branch G. He also shares the mutation at DYS413a=21 (instead of 23) with Kit 129125, above, indicating that this could be a pattern marker that indicates inherited genetic changes.

Kit 898982 provides some Autosomal DNA evidence suggesting the Guthrie families of Thickety Creek, SC may be associated with GFG5.

THE SHADRICK GUTHRY
& MALINDA BADLEY / RUAH ANN ROBERTS FAMILY

SHADRICK GUTHRY
Born: 1772
Location: South Carolina, USA
Marriage 1: Malinda Badley, est. before 1804 in SC or KY
Marriage 2: Ruah Ann Roberts, 13 Nov 1840 in MS
Occupation: Farmer
Died: 1850
Location: Lafayette County, Mississippi, USA
Burial: Unknown, presumably in Lafayette County, Mississippi, USA


MALINDA BADLEY
Born: 1776
Location: South Carolina, USA
Sons: Orin Guthrie, William Edward Guthrie, Allen Guthrie, Shadrack Guthrie, Matthew Guthrie
Daughters: None
Died: About 1828
Location: Kentucky
Burial: Unknown, presumably in Kentucky, USA


RUAH ANN ROBERTS
Born: 1802
Location: Georgia, USA
Previously Married: Thomas Mazy 24 Dec 1821 in Jefferson, AL
Mazy Sons: John Richard Mazy
Mazy Daughters: None Known
Guthrie Sons: James Henry Guthrie, Ransom Johnson Guthrie
Guthrie Daughters: Martha Jane Guthrie, Mary Rebecca Guthrie
Died: After 1860
Location: Calhoun County, Mississippi, USA, presumably
Burial: Unknown, presumably in Calhoun County, Mississippi, USA


CHILDREN:

ORIN GUTHRIE
1804KY-1854TX

Orin Guthrie, the son of Shadrick Guthry and Malinda Badley, was born on 28 Oct 1804 in Kentucky. He was a reverend and farmer. Orin married first to Nancy Boyd on 20 Jan 1827 in Hardeman County, Tennessee. No children. She must have died within a year or two of their marriage. Orin remarried on 23 Jan 1829, also in Hardeman, to Elizabeth Davis. Most of the children were born in Kentucky, but it looks like the youngest might have been Alabama. Between 1841-1850 the family moved to Lavaca County, Texas. Orin Guthrie died there 9 Oct 1854. His widow, Elizabeth, lived until 23 Mar 1892 passing away in Charco, Goliad, Texas.

Children: 5
Sons: William Davis Guthrie
Daughters: Elizabeth Jane Guthrie, Margaret A Guthrie, Mary Ann Guthrie, Cynthia Ann Guthrie

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder Participants: No


WILLIAM EDWARD GUTHRIE
1809-1891TX

The second child of Shadrick Guthry & Malinda Badley was born 31 August 1809, but his birth location is unclear. Based on what we think we know about the family emigration from SC, his birthplace should probably be in Kentucky. Alternate locations are the Indiana Territory and Illinois. William was twice married with children from each of those wives. First, to Mary Ann Beasley, about 1832 in KY, by whom he had 4 children. She died in 1838. Secondly to his wife’s sister, Etheldra Ruth Beasley, on 25 or 27 Feb 1841 in Benton County, TN, by whom he had 10 children. About 1837, between the two marriages, William spent time in Mississippi. Although he married Etheldra in TN, it looks like their early children were born in MS. Son Jeremiah Guthrie, born in 1852, is the first listing his birthplace in Texas. The family moved to Lavaca and later Bell County, Texas. William died in Killeen, Bell, Texas on 11 Mar 1891. His widow died there 13 Dec 1904. Both are buried at the Killeen City Cemetery.

Children: 14
Sons: Shadrick Marion Guthrie, William Beasley Guthrie, Orin Nelson Guthrie, John Fair Humphrey Guthrie, Silas Riddle Guthrie, James Ausborn Guthrie, Jeremiah Pearsall Guthrie, Jefferson Davis Guthrie
Daughter: Margaret Ann Guthrie, Mary Jane Guthrie, Francisco California Guthrie, Emily Spartis Guthrie, Theodocia Nancy Guthrie, Roxie Guthrie

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder Participants: No


ALLEN GUTHRIE
1812KY-1852MS

Allen Guthrie was born about 1812 in Kentucky. He appears to be married by 1840. The Lafayette, MS census lists him as a M20-29 with a F15-19. His wife was Sarah E Stuart. They were listed in Pontotoc, MS in 1860 with their sons. Allen died in Mississippi in 1852. His widow Sarah moved to Arkansas and lived with their son Owen Guthrie and family. She died in 1896.

Children: 3
Sons: John Guthrie, Owen T Guthrie, William Thomas Guthrie
Daughters: None

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder Participants: No


SHADRACK GUTHRIE
1821KY-1888TX

Shadrack Guthrie was born in Kentucky about 1821. He moved to Lavaca, Texas with his father, stepmother and siblings. Twice married. Rachel Harbor was his first wife. They married in Lavaca on 19 Aug 1856 and had 3 children. They moved back to Mississippi and were located there during the 1860 census in Frairs Point, Coahoma, MS. After Rachel’s death in 1870, Shadrack moved the family back to Lavaca County, Texas where he married Amanda Mira Culpepper on 23 Aug 1872. They moved to Salado, Bell County, Texas where Shadrack died on 18 Sep 1888. Amanda, who was 22 years younger than her husband, lived until 1 April 1942. She died in Waco, McLennan County, TX, but was buried at Salado Cemetery.

Children: 5
Sons: James Edwin Guthrie, Robert Lee Guthrie, Mark Gillespie Guthrie, Ira Culpepper Guthrie
Daughters: Jennie Guthrie

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder Participants: No


MATTHEW GUTHRIE
1824KY-Unknown

The last of Shadrick Guthry & Malinda Badley’s children, Matthew Guthrie was born in Kentucky about 1824. His DOD is listed as being between 1848-1850 and a notation about being ‘lost in a skiff on the Mississippi River’. I do not find him in the 1850 census. Ancestry hints include Mexican War muster rolls for a Mathew Guthrie, private, Capt. J Preston’s Co (K), Mounted Regiment Arkansas Infantry July 1846 – Dec 1847. It is possible that these documents related to this man, but that remains unconfirmed.

One interesting fact is his name: Matthew Guthrie. This is not a common name among Guthrie men during the 1700s. It is found one other place: Thickety Creek, South Carolina. One of the men theorized to be Shadrick’s brother is named Matthew Guthrie.

Children: None Known


MARTHA JANE GUTHRIE
1841MS-1896LA

Martha Jane Guthrie was born on 19 August 1841 in Mississippi. She married William Martin Ayres in 1864 at Oxford, Lafayette, Mississippi. They removed to Louisiana. Martha died in Chestnut, Natchitoches, LA on 23 Sep 1896. Her husband outlived her. William died on 26 March 1919 in Ashland in the same county.

Children: 8
Ayres Sons: Ransom Alexander Ayres, James William Carroll Ayres, Arran L Ayres, John Egbert Shadrack Harrison Ayres, Bascom Luther Ayres
Ayres Daughters: Sarah Luzana Ayres, Noamie M Ayres, Martha A Ayres

Family Finder Participants: None


JAMES HENRY GUTHRIE
1843MS-1905TX

James Henry Guthrie was born on 7 January 1843 in Yalobusha, Mississippi. The family was living in Lafayette County in 1850 during the census. He married there on 19 Jan 1865 to Martha Wilson. They removed to Louisiana during the late 1880s, and then to Fannin County, Texas. James died in Bonham, Fannin, Texas on 10 August 1905. Martha lived another 20 years. She died there on 18 June 1925. They are buried at White Rock Cemetery in Fannin County, Texas.

Children: 13
Sons: Henry Guthrie, Aaron H Guthrie, Robert B Guthrie, Mack Cam Guthrie, Gary Thomas Guthrie
Daughters: Jive Guthrie, Mary Lou Guthrie, Linne Guthrie, Jessie May Guthrie, Florence Josephine Guthrie, Kattie G Guthrie, Emma Guthrie, Cleo Guthrie

Y-DNA Project Participants: Yes
Family Finder Participants: No


MARY REBECCA GUTHRIE
1844MS-1884MS

Mary was born about 1844 in Mississippi. She married William Riley Segler on 4 March 1868 in Pontotoc, Mississippi. They lived in Lafayette County, MS where they raised their children. Mary died there on Christmas Day, 25 December 1884. Sometime after that, William moved to Fannin County, TX. He died there on 1 Oct 1917.

Children: 5
Segler Sons: George D Segler, John Henry Segler, Nathan J Segler
Segler Daughters: Rush Ann M Segler, Mary Elizabeth Segler

Family Finder Participants: No


RANSOM JOHNSON GUTHRIE
1849MS-1930LA

Ransom is a name that has cropped up in a couple of descendant lines, so is a potential for family association.

Ransom Guthrie was the youngest child of the family. He was born on 7 Nov 1849 in Lafayette County, Mississippi. He was a farmer and teacher. Ransom’s first wife was Louissa D Varner, whom he married about 1868 in MS. She was the mother of his children. She died about 1898. His second marriage to Sarah Jane Lavina Martin took place when he was about 49 years of age. Not long after the marriage they moved to Winn Parish, Louisiana. Ransom died in Calvin, Winn Parish on 27 Oct 1930. Sarah died on 27 Jul 1949.

Children: 4
Sons: James Walter Guthrie, Ernest Groner Guthrie
Daughters: Lou Donnia Guthrie, Mary Corinna Guthrie

Y-DNA Project Participants: No
Family Finder Participants: No

HISTORICAL HIGHLIGHTS

1772: BIRTH of SHADRICK GUTHRY
Colonial South Carolina

The 1880 census of son Shadrack Guthrie indicates that his father was born in South Carolina.

1776: BIRTH of MALINDA BADLEY
Colonial South Carolina

Some researchers believe Malinda’s family name may have been Bodley.

1795: WITNESS to SALE of PROPERTY (POSSIBLE MATCH)
Thickety Creek, Spartanburg, South Carolina on 7 February 1795

7 Feb 1795 Spartanburg Co. SC p 200-201 Lucy HEARNE to Joseph PRICE 120 ac Thickety Cr–Wit: Mathew GUTERY, Shadrach GUTERY

Note: This entry would be a match if Shadrich Guthry of GFG5 Branch C is indeed from Spartanburg, SC.

1802: BIRTH of RUAH ANN ROBERTS
Georgia, USA

Before 1804: MARRIAGE of SHADRICK GUTHRY & MALINDA BADLEY
South Carolina or Kentucky, presumably

No marriage record has been found.

1804: BIRTH of SON – ORIN GUTHRIE
Kentucky, USA on 28 October 1804

1809: BIRTH of SON – WILLIAM EDWARD GUTHRIE
Kentucky or Indiana Territory or Illinois on 31 August 1809

William’s birthplace varies depending on the document.

1812: BIRTH of SON – ALLEN GUTHRIE
Kentucky, USA

1821: BIRTH of SON – SHADRACK GUTHRIE
Kentucky, USA

1824: BIRTH of SON – MATTHEW GUTHRIE
Kentucky, USA

1827: MARRIAGE of SON – ORIN GUTHRIE
Hardeman County, Tennessee, USA on 20 January 1827

Orin Guthrie married Nancy Boyd. This was the first of two marriages. Nancy died sometime between Jan 1827 and Jan 1829. No known children.

1828: KENTUCKY LAND GRANT
Kentucky, USA on 2 Feb 1828

Grantee Shadrick Guthry Number of Acres 160 Township N W Qr Sec 34 Range T-1 R-3 W Book Number 2 Page number 171

1828: DEATH of WIFE – MALINDA BADLEY GUTHRIE
Kentucky, USA

1829: 2nd MARRIAGE of SON – ORIN GUTHRIE
Hardeman County, Tennessee, USA on 23 January 1729

Orin Guthrie married Elizabeth Davis. They were parents to Elizabeth Jane Guthrie, William Davis Guthrie, Margaret A Guthrie, Mary Ann Guthrie, and Cynthia Ann Guthrie.

1830: PROPERTY SALE
Hickman County, Kentucky, USA on 15 February 1830

Shadrick Guthry of Hickman KY to Andrew Graham of Jefferson KY for $480 in hand paid, sells N.W.Q. Sect 34 Twp 1 Range 3 West, 160A patented to Guthrie 2 Feb 1828. Wit: None. Signed: Shadrick Guthry, Malinda (x) Guthry.

1830: US CENSUS of KENTUCKY
Graves County, Kentucky, USA (Borders Hickman County)

SHADRICK GUTHRIE HOUSEHOLD: 1M 60-69, 1F 50-59, 1M & 1F 30-39, 1M & 1F 20-29, 1M & 1F 15-19, 1M 10-14. 

This Shadrick Guthrie is in the next age category suggesting the 1772 date might be an underestimation of his age. There are also more females in the household, which might indicate that Shadrick and Malinda had some daughters as well as sons.

About 1832: MARRIAGE of SON – WILLIAM EDWARD GUTHRIE
Kentucky, USA, presumably

William Edward Guthrie married Mary Ann Beasley. She was mother to his 4 eldest children: Margaret Ann Guthrie, Shadrick Marion Guthrie, Mary Jane Guthrie, and William Beasley Guthrie. Mary Ann died about 1838.

1840: MARRIAGE of SHADRICK GUTHRY & RUAH ANN ROBERTS MAZY
Yalobusha County, Mississippi, USA

Ruah Ann Roberts was the widow of Thomas Mazy. They had 1 son, John Richard Mazy, who was living in the Guthrie household in 1850 and listed as John Guthrie.

1840: MARRIAGE of SON – ALLEN GUTHRIE
Lafayette, Mississippi, USA, presumably

Not long before the 1840 census, Allen Guthrie married Sarah E Stuart. They were enumerated in Lafayette that year. Allen and Sarah were parents to John Guthrie, Owen T Guthrie, and William Thomas Guthrie.

1840: HOMESTEAD and CASH ENTRY PATENTS
Pontotoc County, Mississippi, USA

Shadrick Guthry, Land Office: Pontotoc, Document No. 9224, Total Acres: 160.12, Issue Date: 16 Nov 1840, Act or Treaty 24 Apr 1820, Sale-Cash Entries, Land Description: 1 NW Chickasaw No 12S 1E 6

1841: MISSISSIPPI STATE TERRITORIAL CENSUS
Chickasaw County, Mississippi, USA

Shadrick Guthry Males: 1 – 0 – 0 – 3, Females: 2 16 and over, 2 under 16

1841: 2ND MARRIAGE of SON – WILLIAM EDWARD GUTHRIE
Benton County, Tennessee, USA

William Edward Guthrie married the sister of his first wife Etheldra Ruth Beasley. They had 10 children together: Orin Nelson Guthrie, John Fair Humphrey Guthrie, Silas Riddle Guthrie, James Ausborn Guthrie, Francisco California Guthrie, Jeremiah Pearsall Guthrie, Emily Spartis Guthrie, Theodocia Nancy Guthrie, Roxie Guthrie, and Jefferson Davis Guthrie.

1850: US CENSUS of MISSISSIPPI
Lafayette County, Mississippi, USA

Guthrie Household:
Shadrack Guthrie 78 farmer Real Estate 600 born SC
Rue Guthrie 48 born ?
John Guthrie 15 (actually Ruah’s son John Richard Mazy) laborer born TN
Martha J Guthrie 8 born MS
Jas H Guthrie 7 born MS
Mary A R Guthrie 4 born MS
Ransom J Guthrie 9/12 born MS

1850: DEATH of SHADRICK GUTHRY
Lafayette County, Mississippi, USA

1856: MARRIAGE of SON – SHADRACK GUTHRIE
Lavaca County, Texas, USA on 19 August 1856

Shadrack Guthrie married Rachel Harbor. They were parents to Jennie Guthrie, James Edwin Guthrie, and Robert Lee Guthrie. Rachel died in 1870.

1860: US CENSUS of MISSISSIPPI
Calhoun County, Mississippi, USA

Guthrie Household
Rua Guthrie 56, F, Farmer, RE640, PE 320, GA
Martha Guthrie MS 19 MS
Mary Guthrie 16 MS
Ransome Guthrie 11 MS

After 1860: DEATH of RUAH ANN (ROBERTS) GUTHRY
Calhoun, Mississippi, USA, presumably

About 1864: MARRIAGE of DAUGHTER – MARTHA JANE GUTHRIE
Oxford, Lafayette, Mississippi, USA

Martha Jane Guthrie married William Martin Ayres. They were parents to Ransom Alexander Ayres, James William Carroll Ayres, Aaran L Ayres, Sarah Luzana Ayres, John Egbert Shadrack Harrison Ayres, Noamie M Ayres, Bascom Luther Ayres, Martha A Ayres.

1865: MARRIAGE of SON – JAMES HENRY GUTHRIE
Lafayette County, Mississippi, USA on 19 January 1865

James Henry Guthrie married Martha Wilson. They were parents to Jive Guthrie, Henry Guthrie, Mary Lou Guthrie, Aaron H Guthrie, Linne Guthrie, Jessie May Guthrie, Robert B Guthrie, Florence Josephine Guthrie, Kattie G Guthrie, Mack Cam Guthrie, Emma Guthrie, Gary Thomas Guthrie, and Cleo Guthrie.

1868: MARRIAGE of DAUGHTER – MARY REBECCA GUTHRIE
Pontotoc County, Mississippi, USA

Mary Rebecca Guthrie married William Riley Segler. Their children were Rush Ann M Segler, George D Segler, John Henry Segler, Nathan J Segler, and Mary Elizabeth Segler.

About 1868: MARRIAGE of SON – RANSOM JOHNSON GUTHRIE
Mississippi, USA, presumably

Ransom Johnson Guthrie married Louissa D Varner. They were parents to Lou Donnia Guthrie, Mary Corinna Guthrie, James Walter Guthrie, and Ernest Groner Guthrie. Louissa died in 1898.

1872: 2nd MARRIAGE of SON – SHADRACK GUTHRIE
Lavaca County, Texas, USA on 23 August 1872

Shadrack Guthrie, son of Shadrick & Malinda, married for a 2nd time to Amanda Mira Culpeper. Their children were Mark Gillespie Guthrie, and Ira Culpepper Guthrie.

1898: 2nd MARRIAGE of SON – RANSOM JOHNSON GUTHRIE
Mississippi or Louisiana, USA, presumably

Ransom Guthrie married Sarah Jane Lavina Martin. No children from this marriage.


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